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The image shows a professor in a lab coat and glasses, using a tip-sensitive digital thermometer to measure the temperature at the center of a container of vegetarian chili. The chili is on a refrigerator shelf in a home kitchen, with the fridge open, revealing various food items.

732. Don's Slow Cooling Veggie Chili

February 12, 2025 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of slow cooling vegetarian chili.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • FSIS Stabilization Guideline for Meat and Poultry Products (Revised Appendix B) December, 2021
  • Cooling Uncovered Foods at a Depth of ∼5.1 cm (2 in.) or Less Poses Little Risk of Pathogen Growth - ScienceDirect
  • FDA Food Code | FDA
  • Cooling Rates of Chili Using Refrigerator, Blast Chiller, and Chill Stick Cooling Methods


February 12, 2025 /Don Schaffner
Cooling, Clostridium perfringens, Bacillus cereus
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