Risky or Not?

A short podcast about everyday risks from germs

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501. Picking Your Nose

August 23, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of picking your nose with respect to COVID-19 and other risks

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Why not to pick your nose: Association between nose picking and SARS-CoV-2 incidence, a cohort study in hospital health care workers | PLOS ONE
  • TWiV 1034: Clinical update with Dr. Daniel Griffin | This Week in Virology
  • Nose Picking and Nasal Carriage of Staphylococcus aureus | Infection Control & Hospital Epidemiology | Cambridge Core
August 23, 2023 /Don Schaffner
COVID-19, Nose picking, Staphylococcus aureus

DALL·E - A cake with 500 candles inside a cardboard box

500. Mail Order Cakes Shipped at Room Temperature

August 21, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of consuming cakes shipped at room temperature that recommend refrigeration or freezing on receipt.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Smart Baking Company - Official Site
  • About - Smart Baking Company
  • POLICIES - Smart Baking Company
  • Sesame SmartBun 4-pack - Smart Baking Company
  • STORE LOCATOR - Smart Baking Company
August 21, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Time temperature control for safety, Cake, Baked goods

DALL·E - A pile of raw chicken on top of a bowl of uncooked rice inside an open rice cooker

499. Cooking Raw Chicken in a Rice Cooker

August 18, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of cooking raw chicken in a rice cooker.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Need an Idea for Easy Meal Prep? Make Dinner in Your Rice Cooker. - Eater
  • I’m all about low effort dishes that taste amazing.. and this is one o... | Rice Cooker Recipes | TikTok
  • 31: Rice Left in a Warming Rice Cooker Over Night — Risky or Not?
  • USDA FSIS Appendix A
  • Veronica (@squirrelchomp) / X
  • Chicken Dry Curry | Zojirushi.com
  • Rice Cooker Chicken and Soy Sauce Rice - Jasmine and Tea
August 18, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Salmonella, Chicken, Rice cooker

DALL·E - Open half empty can of chicken noodle soup sitting on a countertop. Note that DALL·E totally invented the spoon, which was not part of the prompt.

498. Room Temperature Canned Chicken Noodle Soup

August 16, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of consuming canned chicken noodle soup without heating.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Bon Vivant Voluntarily Recalls All Vichyssoise From Dealers - The New York Times
  • Acidified and Low-Acid Food Regulatory Requirements
  • Better Process Control School - Consumer Brands Association
  • Botulism Associated with Commercially Canned Chili Sauce --- Texas and Indiana, July 2007
  • Marie Antoinette - Wikipedia
August 16, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Low acid canned foods, Botulism, Soup

DALL·E - Unopened Carton of Heavy Cream Almost 3 Weeks Past It's Expiration Date in an empty refrigerator in the style of Edward Hopper

497. Unopened Carton of Heavy Cream Almost 3 Weeks Past It's Expiration Date

August 14, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of consuming heavy cream from an unopened carton almost 3 weeks past it's expiration date.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • 🇺🇸 Bobby Blue Byrd 🇺🇦 on Twitter: "@pdnell @gastropoda What say you @bugcounter @benjaminchapman ? https://t.co/G4RrFHGOIN" / X
  • Short communication: Bacterial ecology of high-temperature, short-time pasteurized milk processed in the United States - ScienceDirect
  • Sudden Death of a Young Adult Associated with Bacillus cereus Food Poisoning - PMC
  • National Outbreak Reporting System (NORS) Dashboard | CDC
  • Don's Milk Shelf Life Article


August 14, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Cream, Dairy, Shelf life, Bacillus
Image of corn in a dishwasher from the OP. DALL·E could not figure this one out

496. Dishwasher Corn

August 11, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of blanching corn in the dishwasher prior to freezing.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • HAPPY IN HORTON: this may sound "CORNY" to you....
  • Food Safety Talk 198: Very Old Molasses (with Rachael Jackson) — Food Safety Talk
  • Safety Data Sheet Jet Dry
  • NTP Technical Report on the Toxicology and Carcinogenesis Studies of Technical Grade Sodium Xylenesulfonate
  • Microwave Corn on the Cob in Husk - No Messy Silk! - The Dinner-Mom


August 11, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Corn, Dishwasher, Jet Dry, Toxicology, Sodium Xylenesulfonate

DALL·E - Porridge containing lots of Frozen Berries in an open Microwave oven

495. Frozen Berries in Microwaved Porridge

August 09, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of making porridge with frozen berries in the microwave.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • 122. Frozen Berry Smoothies — Risky or Not?
  • Estimation of Bacteriophage MS2 Inactivation Parameters During Microwave Heating of Frozen Strawberries - ScienceDirect


August 09, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Berries, Viruses, Microwave, Porridge

DALL·E - a dirty hand in a clear vinyl glove

494. Gloves Without Handwashing

August 07, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from wearing gloves without washing your hands first.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Glove Barriers to Bacterial Cross-Contamination between Hands to Food - ScienceDirect
  • Evaluation of glove type on survival and transfer of Escherichia coli in model systems and during hand harvesting of lettuce - Zhao - 2021 - JSFA reports - Wiley Online Library
  • Scientific Evidence Supports the Use of Alcohol-Based Hand Sanitizers as an Effective Alternative to Hand Washing in Retail Food and Food Service Settings When Heavy Soiling Is Not Present on Hands - ScienceDirect
  • FDA Food Code | FDA
  • Hand Washing & Glove Use for Food Workers - Questions and Answers
  • Money and transmission of bacteria | Antimicrobial Resistance & Infection Control | Full Text
  • Merlin Mann coined, or at least heavily uses the phrase "turns out journalism" w... | Hacker News
August 07, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Gloves, Handwashing

493. Visiting a Fish Market

August 04, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from visting a fish market.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Don Schaffner 🦠 on Twitter: "Visiting a fish market, #RiskyorNot @benjaminchapman?" / X
  • 290. Yeeting a Real Fish Into a Crowd — Risky or Not?
  • Best in Show (4/11) Movie CLIP - Naming Nuts (2000) HD - YouTube


August 04, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Fish, Seafood, Pathogens

DALL·E - a little Baked Potato sitting in a white slow cooker on a countertop in a kitchen

492. Slow Cooker Baked Potatoes With No Water

August 02, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from making a baked potato in a slow cooker without added water.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Carnac the Magnificent - Wikipedia
  • Food Talk, UGA SNAP-Ed on Twitter: "Easily make slow-cooker baked potatoes, no water needed. 1. clean potato, 2. Season with olive oil, salt, and pepper, 3. Place potatoes on LOW for 6-8 hours or on HIGH for 4 hours. Add chives and greek yogurt (a low-fat, high-protein substitute for sour cream). https://t.co/fVBGUFf4dM" / X
  • Slow cookers and food safety | UMN Extension
  • Counting-out game - Wikipedia
August 02, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Potatoes, Slow cooker, Botulism

DALL·E - a worried pig standing next to a grill with three potatoes wrapped in aluminum foil

491. Foil Wrapped Smoked Potatoes

July 31, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from cooking potatoes cooked in a smoker.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Tastee Sub Shop · Apple Maps
  • Tastee Freez - The Original Soft Serve Ice Cream
  • What was the Double E Warren Zevon referred to?
  • Large Outbreak of Botulism: The Hazardous Baked Potato | The Journal of Infectious Diseases | Oxford Academic
  • Restaurant-Associated Type a Botulism: Transmission by Potato Salad | American Journal of Epidemiology | Oxford Academic
  • Conservative prediction of time to Clostridium botulinum toxin formation for use with time-temperature indicators to ensure the safety of foods - PubMed
  • Sleater-Kinney
  • Parameters Determining Inoculated Pack Challenge Study
July 31, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Potatoes, Botulism, Smoker

490. Extended Refrigerated Storage of Thawed Frozen Pizza Dough

July 28, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating pizza made from refrigerated thawed frozen pizza dough stored for at least 2 weeks in the fridge.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Validation of baking as a kill-step for controlling Shiga toxin-producing Escherichia coli during traditional crust pizza baking process - PMC
  • Frozen pizza suspected in 10-state E coli outbreak | CIDRAP
  • Investigation of Outbreak of Human Infections Caused by E. coli O157:H7 | E. coli CDC
  • Survival and growth of foodborne bacterial pathogens in fermenting dough of wadi, a legume-based indigenous food - PMC
July 28, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Pizza, Dough, Refrigerated storage

489. Dim Sum from Bamboo Steamers

July 26, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating dim sum from bamboo steamer.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Dim sum - Wikipedia
  • National Outbreak Reporting System (NORS) Dashboard | CDC
  • After the pandemic left them empty, dim sum restaurants are bustling once again : NPR
  • No need to clean bamboo steamer
  • Salmonella Outbreak Linked to Dim Sum Chain in Shanghai – Thatsmags.com
  • Wang Chung - Everybody Have Fun Tonight - YouTube
  • Nearly 100 People Sickened After Attending Philadelphia Banquet | Food Safety News
  • IAFP meeting Tampa 2017
July 26, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Dim sum, Physical hazard, Wood, Cross-contamination

488. DALL·E - Small boy harvesting mussels from a lake in the style of Norman Rockwell

488. Eating Boiled Freshwater Mussels From Lake Winnisquam, New Hampshire

July 24, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating boiled freshwater mussels from Lake Winnisquam, New Hampshire

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Lake Winnipesaukee - Wikipedia
  • Lake Winnisquam - Wikipedia
  • Advisories | NH Department of Environmental Services
  • Healthy Swimming Mapper | NH Department of Environmental Services
  • FAQs | NH Department of Environmental Services
  • Healthy Swimming Mapper
  • FRI Cyanobacteria Toxins Aug 2011
  • CDC: Norovirus outbreak linked to oysters sickens hundreds across 8 states | FOX8 WGHP
July 24, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Mussels, Shellfish, Fecal coliforms, Cyanobacteria

487. Four Year Old Blackberry Freezer Jam of Uncertain Provenance

July 21, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks four year old blackberry freezer jam which may have been temperature abused.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • KathleenS on Twitter: "Eating this seems like a surefire way to end up seriously ill and featured in an episode of @chubbyemu But I’m no scientist. What say you @bugcounter @benjaminchapman #RiskyOrNot https://t.co/UjpgyUQAzm" / Twitter
  • National Center for Home Food Preservation | How Do I? Jam and Jelly
  • Blackberry Freezer Jam - Recipe Girl
  • Effects of blackberry juice on growth inhibition of foodborne pathogens and growth promotion of Lactobacillus - ScienceDirect
  • Chubbyemu (@chubbyemu) / Twitter
July 21, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Blackberries, Freezer jam, Temperature control for safety

486. Cat Smelled Food

July 19, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating a food that a cat has smelled.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Melon and Finn (@melon.n.finn) | TikTok
  • 115. Cats in the Kitchen — Risky or Not?
  • 269. Cat Licked Cake — Risky or Not?
  • What was the first Beatles song over three minutes in length? - BeatlesTrivia.com
  • 65 Beatles songs in under 3 minutes - YouTube
  • Billy Joel- The Entertainer HD - YouTube


July 19, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Cat, Sniffing

485. Hotel Room Baby Back Ribs

July 17, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of making baby back ribs in your hotel room with a hair drier and a pillow case.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Chef Reactions on Twitter: "We will never break the chain (of custody) https://t.co/8iSmYz59Ep" / Twitter
July 17, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Baby back ribs, Hotel room

DALL·E - Pineapple, sugar and water bubbling in a large clear glass

484. Tepache de Piña

July 14, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks making a fermented pineapple drink called tepache de piña.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • ★metal★matt★ @mattorantimatt@mstdn.social on Twitter: "@bugcounter @benjaminchapman Tepache de piña #riskyornot (or maybe more specifically how can I ensure I do this safely) https://t.co/aqCseSbDAo" / Twitter
  • Pineapple Tepache Recipe (With Variations)
  • Inactivation of Escherichia coli, Listeria monocytogenes, and Salmonella Enteritidis by Cymbopogon citratus D.C. Stapf. Essential Oil in Pineapple Juice - PubMed
July 14, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Pineapple, Fermentation

DALL·E - a bare chested fat bald gay man holding a vodka soda with a lime

483. Being in the Sun and Wiping Lime Juice on Your Skin

July 12, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of wiping lime juice on your skin when in the sun.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • Criminalize Straight (Pride Special 2023!) — Lovett or Leave It — Overcast
  • Guy Branum - Wikipedia
  • Phytophotodermatitis
  • 'Margarita disease' gets its turn in the limelight | CTV News
  • Sun Exposure | CDC Yellow Book 2024
July 12, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Phytophotodermatitis, Lime

DALL·E - A snapping turtle drinking a beer in an edgy comic book style

482. Using a Turtle to Open a Beverage

July 10, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of opening a beverage with a snapping turtle.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Food Safety Talk 251: Too Many Brooms — Food Safety Talk
  • Beer Time Billy 🍺 on Instagram: “Who knew turtles were so useful?! I’ll name him squirtle.😂 Follow @beertimebilly if need a squirtle right now!🍻 Credit: @tooturnttony”
  • Tiny Turtles and Salmonella | Healthy Pets, Healthy People | CDC
  • Michelob Ultra 12pk Cans – Newfoundland Labrador Liquor Corporation
  • Absence of Detectable Salmonella Cloacal Shedding in Free-Living Reptiles on Admission to the Wildlife Center of Virginia
  • Traumatic Amputation of Finger From an Alligator Snapping Turtle Bite - ScienceDirect
  • An Outbreak of Salmonella Food Poisoning at a Snapping Turtle Restaurant
  • Eastman and Laird's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles | TMNTPedia | Fandom
July 10, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Reptiles, Salmonella
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