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297. Poultry Cooked to 150 ยฐF (Plus Carryover)

May 04, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of cooking poultry to 150 ยฐF plus carryover heating.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • How to Check If Your Turkey's Cooked to the Right Temperature
  • USDA FSIS Appendix A

While searching for show art, Don came across the page linked below. This provides a more quantitative assessment, but does not change the overall conclusions.

  • The Science of Carryover Cooking: What Happens After You Cook |
May 04, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Cooking, Poultry, Temperature
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191. Whole Veggies and Raw Meat in a Home Refrigerator at 50ยฐF for Four Days *

August 30, 2021 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from eating whole veggies and raw meat in a home refrigerator at 50ยฐF for four days

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

* Please listen to the entire episode, lots of necessary equivocation.

  • Comprehensive evaluation of temperatures within home refrigerators
  • Emergency Action Plan for Retail Food Establishment | Conference-Developed Guides and Documents | Conference for Food Protection
  • Consumer Home Refrigeration Practices: Results of a Web-Based Survey | Journal of Food Protection
  • ComBase
  • Validation of Mathematical Models for Salmonella Growth in Raw Ground Beef under Dynamic Temperature Conditions Representing Loss of Refrigeration | Journal of Food Protection
  • The Big Lebowski (1998) - IMDb
August 30, 2021 /Don Schaffner
Raw meat, Refrigeration, Temperature
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148. High Meat

May 21, 2021 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of high meat.

Dr. Don - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ

Professor Ben - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ

  • Andrew H on Twitter: "High meat"? Seems extremely risky to me
  • Michael Che Responds To Criticism Over โ€˜SNLโ€™s Gen Z Hospital Sketch โ€“ Deadline
  • โ€˜How do you do, fellow kidsโ€™ has become the โ€˜how do you do, fellow kidsโ€™ of memes - The Verge
  • People are Eating Rotten, Raw Meat to 'Get High' in Dangerous Online Trend
  • my experience with fermented high meat : Paleo
  • Basturma
  • Sujuk - Wikipedia
  • High meat? How? : carnivore
  • FDA Scombrotoxin (Histamine) Formation
May 21, 2021 /Don Schaffner
Meat, Fermentation, Temperature, Raw meat
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133. Storing Eggs in the Car for a Few Days

April 16, 2021 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of forgetting your eggs in the car for a few days

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • neil chazin on Twitter
  • Egg safety - Canada.ca
  • Glass Half Empty on Twitter
  • Risk Assessment Models for Salmonella Enteritidis in Shell Eggs and Salmonella spp. in Egg Products | Food Safety and Inspection Service
  • TextExpander โ€“ Productivity App | Text Expander
  • Modelling survival behaviour of Salmonella enterica ser. Enteritidis, Typhimurium and Tennessee on table eggs during storage at different temperatures - ScienceDirect
April 16, 2021 /Don Schaffner
Eggs, Temperature
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128. Milk on the Counter Over Night

April 05, 2021 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from leaving milk on the counter over night.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • pandasPause on Twitter
  • Casey Neistat - Wikipedia
  • Allen Pike on Twitter: "@atpfm I laughed so hard at โ€œWho the hell is Caseyโ€ that I had to pause the podcast
  • Casey Liss (@caseyliss) / Twitter
  • ComBase
April 05, 2021 /Don Schaffner
Milk, Temperature
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94. Room Temperature Fermented Hot Sauce

January 15, 2021 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of making and shipping room temperature fermented hot sauce

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Kimchi Handout Colorado State
  • Frankโ€™s RedHot
January 15, 2021 /Don Schaffner
Hot sauce, Hot peppers, Temperature, Fermentation
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86. Thawing Poultry at Room Temperature

December 28, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of thawing poultry at room temperature.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Savana on Twitter: "@VectorSciNikki @benjaminchapman @bugcounter You guys can probably explain more eloquently than I can" / Twitter
  • Don Schaffner ๐Ÿฆ  on Twitter: "Room temperature thawing of frozen meat is an interesting topic that comes up from time to time. If you check all of the food safety advice websites they will tell you that it is not safe to do this. (1/18)" / Twitter
  • Staphylococcus aureus - Wikipedia
  • ComBase
December 28, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Poultry, Thawing, Temperature
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84. Aseptic Chicken Broth on the Counter for 2 Days

December 23, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of using aseptic chicken broth on the counter for 2 days.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • (18) Glass Half Empty on Twitter: "@bugcounter @benjaminchapman Help! I just discovered that I left an open Tetra Pak box of chicken broth on the counter for 2 days. Smells okay. Is it risky to use it or not? https://t.co/tiCODvC33p" / Twitter
  • The Effects of Heat Activation on Bacillus Spore Germination, with Nutrients or under High Pressure, with or without Various Germination Proteins | Applied and Environmental Microbiology
December 23, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Aseptic, Temperature, Temperature abuse
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63. Reusing a Meat Thermometer

November 04, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of reusing a meat thermometer.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Thermapen Mk4 Instant-read Thermometer for meat & more
  • Comark PDT300 Waterproof Chefs Instant Read Thermometer
  • Old USDA Appendix A
  • 160ยฐF Is Good
November 04, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Raw meat, Temperature, Thermometer
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31: Rice Left in a Warming Rice Cooker Over Night

August 21, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating rice left in a warming rice cooker over night

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Neuro Fuzzyยฎ Rice Cooker & Warmer NS-ZCC10/18 | Zojirushi.com

  • Bacillus cereus - Wikipedia

August 21, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Rice, Rice cooker, Temperature
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22: Open Fridge for Two Hours

July 31, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from leaving your refrigerator open for two hours.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • (2) Justin on Twitter: รขโ‚ฌล“@bugcounter someone left the door to our fridge open since 12:00 or 12:30. It is now 2:00 when we discovered the open door and the thermometer reads 50 degrees. Throw out all the food, or shut the fridge door and continue with our lives?รขโ‚ฌย / Twitter

  • ComBase

  • Food Safety During Power Outage | FoodSafety.gov

July 31, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Temperature, Refrigerator

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