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81. Shipping Pumpkin Pie

December 16, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of shipping pumpkin pie cross country.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Julie Weiss on Twitter: Love your show!!!Shipping a homemade frozen pumpkin pie cross-country overnight.
  • Evaluation and Definition of Potentially Hazardous Foods
  • Turns out it was Tiff, not Marco, Don regrets mis-speaking
  • Nick Fragedakis - Program Director and Acidified Foods Process Authority
  • Growth of Salmonella typhimurium and Staphylococcus aureus in Retail Pumpkin Pies1 | Journal of Food Protection | Allen Press
  • The Complex Underworld of Lost Baggage Delivery - Underunderstood
December 16, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Pumpkin Pie, Shelf stable
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80. Old canned soup

December 14, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating very old canned soup.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • (3) John Wyatt on Twitter: "@TorontoStar @parkdalefoodbnk @bugcounter @benjaminchapman - Risky or not?" / Twitter
  • โ€˜Iโ€™m just hungry.โ€™ Toronto man vows to eat 14-year-old can of soup in hopes of raising $10,000 for local food bank | The Star
  • Donate Now - Parkdale Community Food Bank
  • Can infant formula and baby food be used after the date expires?
  • Food Product Dating
  • Cuff The Duke - Confessions From A Parkdale Basement (Official Audio) - YouTube
  • Parkdale Community Food Bank on Instagram: โ€œHey guys, @liborio_verne here. I am eternally grateful for your support and enthusiasm out of what was essentially a joke. Together, weโ€ฆโ€
  • Food Safety Talk 196: Superintendent of Judges
  • Parkdale, Toronto - Wikipedia
December 14, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Shelf-life, Canned food
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79. Not Washing Sodastream Bottles

December 11, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risk of rinsing (not washing) your Sodastream bottles between uses.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • SodaStream Bottle Cleaning Tips -
  • Sodastream Zylinder selbst nachfรผllen
  • An overview of microorganisms and factors contributing for the microbial stability of carbonated soft drinks - ScienceDirect
  • Surface Sanitation and Microbiological Food Quality of a University Foodservice Operation - Buckalew - 1996 - Foodservice Research International - Wiley Online Library
December 11, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Soda, Bottle, Washing, Sodastream, Water
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78. Garlic Confit

December 09, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of storing homemade garlic confit in your refrigerator for months.

Dr. Don - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ

Professor Ben - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ

  • Confit | Definition of Confit by Oxford Dictionary on Lexico.com also meaning of Confit
  • Confit - Wikipedia
  • Justin Modugno on Twitter: "@bugcounter risky or not? https://t.co/7ShznsGBOi" / Twitter
  • Garlic-in-oil associated botulism: episode leads to product modification. | AJPH | Vol. 80 Issue 11
  • Current Food Safety Issues of Home-prepared Vegetables and Herbs Stored in Oil
  • Home Storage Temperatures and Consumer Handling of Refrigerated Foods in Sweden | Journal of Food Protection | Allen Press
  • Garlic: Safe Methods to Store, Preserve, and Enjoy
December 09, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Garlic, Botulism, Oil
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77. Takeout and COVID-19

December 07, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the COVID-19 risks from takeout food.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘

Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘

  • Welcome to FoodCoVNET | NC State Extension
  • Potential for foodborne transmission Covid-19: ยป Meat Industry Association
  • (3) Don Schaffner ๐Ÿฆ  on Twitter: "Hey folks, @LexFri asks a great question.
  • Turning This Car Around
December 07, 2020 /Don Schaffner
COVID-19, Takeout Food

76. Eating Every Dry Aged Meat

December 04, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from eating every dry aged meat.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘

Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘

  • I Dry Aged EVERY Meat, ATE them and this happened! - YouTube
  • Fortunate Son | Do By Friday
  • UMAi Dry Ribeye Striploin Premium Dry Age Bags for Meat | Dry Aging Meat Kit for Refrigerator | Simple at Home Method | Packet Includes 3 UMAi Dry Bags Sized for Ribeye and Striploin Steaks: Home Improvement
  • Survival of Salmonella on cuts of beef carcasses subjected to dry aging - Knudsen - 2011 - Journal of Applied Microbiology - Wiley Online Library
  • Survey of Antimicrobial Effects of Beef Carcass Intervention Treatments in Very Small Stateโ€Inspected Slaughter Plants - Algino - 2007 - Journal of Food Science - Wiley Online Library
  • 34: Thawing Frozen Fish in Vacuum Packed Bag โ€” Risky or Not?
December 04, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Meat, Dry Aging
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75. Restaurant Baked Potato Skins

December 02, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating restaurant baked potato skins.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Large Outbreak of Botulism: The Hazardous Baked Potato | The Journal of Infectious Diseases | Oxford Academic
  • Gritty (mascot) - Wikipedia)
December 02, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Baked Potato, Grit
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74. Canned Whipped Cream 14 Months Past Best by Date

November 30, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of consuming canned whipped cream 14 months past it's best by date.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Eric B on Twitter: "@bugcounter @benjaminchapman Canned whipped cream (like Reddi-wip) kept in the fridge for 20 months (14 months past best by date). Fridge is kept at 38ยฐF and had a themometer part of the time. #RiskyOrNot" / Twitter
  • Reddi-wip
  • Whippet - Wikipedia
  • Whipped-cream charger - Wikipedia
November 30, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Whipped Cream, Expiration dates
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73. Preparing Poultry and Just Using Hand Sanitizer

November 27, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks when preparing poultry and just using hand sanitizer.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Jon Kimble on Twitter: "When preparing poultry, and you don't have soap and water available (?!) just use sanitizer... what do you think? @bugcounter @benjaminchapman @mbbatz https://t.co/2Ye77tpG4A" / Twitter
  • Management of Risk of Microbial Cross-Contamination from Uncooked Frozen Hamburgers by Alcohol-Based Hand Sanitizer | Journal of Food Protection | Allen Press
  • SaniTwice: a novel approach to hand hygiene for reducing bacterial contamination on hands when soap and water are unavailable - PubMed
  • Efficacy of Instant Hand Sanitizers against Foodborne Pathogens Compared with Hand Washing with Soap and Water in Food Preparation Settings: A Systematic Review | Journal of Food Protection | Allen Press
November 27, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Poultry, Hand sanitizer
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72. Old Fruit Cake

November 25, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of old fruit cake.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • 141-year-old fruitcake is a Michigan family's heirloom - News - Ionia Sentinel - Standard-Ionia, MI - Ionia, MI
  • Intermediate Moisture Foods - ScienceDirect
  • Fruitcake โ€“ Will it Last Forever? | NC State News
  • Icebox Fruitcake And Why Christmas Trees Don't Have to be Green - Southern Bite
  • World's Best Fruit Cake (Moist Fruit Cake Recipe) A Beautiful Plate
November 25, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Fruitcake
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71. Toilet Milky Way

November 23, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating toilet Milky Way.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Milky Way (chocolate bar) - Wikipedia)
  • Reese's Peanut Butter Cups - Wikipedia
  • Amazon.com: Dr. Seuss & Mr. Geisel: A Biography (9780306807367): Morgan, Judith, Morgan, Neil: Books
  • Dr. Seuss Books Can Be Racist, But We Still Keep Reading Them : Code Switch : NPR
November 23, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Toilet, Chocolate, Candy
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70. Waterglassing Eggs for Room Temperature Storage

November 20, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of waterglassing eggs for room temperature storage.

Dr. Don - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ

Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Experimentally Killing Salmonella typhimurium on Egg Shells by Washing - ScienceDirect
  • (10) Facebook
  • Water Glassing Eggs for Long-Term Storage - Backyard Poultry
  • https://www.fsis.usda.gov/shared/PDF/SE_Risk_Assess_Oct2005.pdf
  • 39: Chapman's Backyard Poultry โ€” Risky or Not?
  • โ€˜The Mandalorianโ€™ Season 2, Episode 2 Review: Chapter 10โ€”The Passenger | IndieWire
November 20, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Eggs, Salmonella, Waterglassing
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69. Licking a Chocolate Statue

November 18, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of licking a chocolate statue.

Dr. Don - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ

Professor Ben - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ

  • Watch in horror as people lick and bite a chocolate Benedict Cumberbatch statue
  • Veronica Bryant (@NoroNerd) / Twitter
  • Vomiting Device Offers First Direct Evidence That Vomit Aerosolizes Norovirus-Like Particles | NC State News
November 18, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Chocolate, Ice Statues, Licking
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68. Colander Rinsing

November 16, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of only rinsing a colander.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Neuro Fuzzyยฎ Rice Cooker & Warmer NS-ZCC10/18 | Zojirushi.com
  • Predictive Model for Growth of Bacillus cereus at Temperatures Applicable to Cooling of Cooked Pasta - Juneja - 2019 - Journal of Food Science - Wiley Online Library
  • Bacillus cereus Biofilmsโ€”Same, Only Different
November 16, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Bacillus cereus, Colander, Rinsing
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67. Three Day Old Hand Towels

November 13, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of using three day old hand towels.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • โ€ŽBacterial Occurrence in Kitchen Hand Towels
  • The survival of foodborne pathogens during domestic washing-up and subsequent transfer onto washing-up sponges, kitchen surfaces and food - PubMed
  • A study of the microbial content of the domestic kitchen: International Journal of Environmental Health Research: Vol 5, No 2
November 13, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Hand towels
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66. Eating Old Frozen Fish

November 11, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating old frozen fish.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • FoodKeeper App | FoodSafety.gov
  • Quality in Frozen Food - Marilyn C. Erickson, Yen-Con Hung - Google Books
  • How Does the Freezer Burn Our Food? - Schmidt - 2009 - Journal of Food Science Education - Wiley Online Library
November 11, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Frozen Food, Shelf-life, Fish
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65. Egg Whites in Alcoholic Drinks

November 09, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of using egg white in alcoholic drinks.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Would you like some eggs with your cocktail? | barfblog
  • Antibacterial activity of egg white: influence of physico-chemical conditions
November 09, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Eggs, Alcohol, Egg whites
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64. COVID-19 Outdoor Dining Pods

November 06, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of using COVID-19 outdoor dining pods.

Dr. Don - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ

Professor Ben - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ

  • Don Schaffner ๐Ÿฆ  on Twitter: "Iโ€™ll say interesting idea.
  • Louis Cifer Brew Works
November 06, 2020 /Don Schaffner
COVID-19, Restaurants
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63. Reusing a Meat Thermometer

November 04, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of reusing a meat thermometer.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Thermapen Mk4 Instant-read Thermometer for meat & more
  • Comark PDT300 Waterproof Chefs Instant Read Thermometer
  • Old USDA Appendix A
  • 160ยฐF Is Good
November 04, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Raw meat, Temperature, Thermometer
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62. Drinking Directly From a Soda Can

November 02, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from drinking directly from a soda can.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Kids can leave the can open : Nature News
  • Method of protecting the open top of a beer can and a soda can against contamination by insects, dirt and debris


November 02, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Soda can
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