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285. Bringing Your Own Banana

April 06, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from eating a banana split from a "bring your own banana" shop.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • 14: Budnik's Banana โ€” Risky or Not?
  • Bruster's Ice Cream
  • Survival of Listeria innocua, Salmonella salford and Escherichia coli on the surface of fruit with inedible skins - ScienceDirect
  • Watch on Facebook?
April 06, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Banana, Cross-contamination

284. Dog Kisses

April 04, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from getting kissed by your dog.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Capnocytophaga | CDC
  • Man dies after being licked by his dog and contracting rare infection | CNN
  • View of Being Licked by a Dog Can Be Fatal: Capnocytophaga canimorsus Sepsis with Purpura Fulminans in an Immunocompetent Man
  • Occurrence of Salmonella, Campylobacter, Clostridium and Enterobacteriaceae in raw meatโ€based diets for dogs
April 04, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Dogs, Kissing

283. Infant Formula After a Few Ants Are Removed

April 01, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from consuming liquid infant formula after a few ants are removed from the dry powder.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Ants as potential vectors of pathogens in hospitals in the state of sao paulo, brazil | International Journal of Tropical Insect Science | Cambridge Core
  • A study on the potential of ants to act as vectors of foodborne pathogens - PMC
  • Justin on Twitter: "@bugcounter @benjaminchapman #riskyOrNot feeding a baby a bottle after finding and removing a few ants in the box of formula" / Twitter
  • 159. Food, Once a Fly Has Landed on It โ€” Risky or Not?
April 01, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Ants, Infant formula

282. Sage's Steak Cookies

March 30, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of making cookies with steak chips.

Dr. Don - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ
Professor Ben - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ

  • Sage (@SageOlson) / Twitter
  • Glazed Burnt End Chocolate Chip Cookies | Beef Loving Texans
  • Fate of Escherichia coli O157:H7, Listeria monocytogenes, and Salmonella typhimurium during Preparation and Storage of Beef Jerky | Journal of Food Protection
  • Brisket Chocolate Chip Cookies Recipe - Barbecuebible.com
  • Home - Texas Cottage Food Law
  • From Jam to Jerky: Water Activity and the Science of Preservation
March 30, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Cookies, Meat

281. Unpasteurized Eggs from Neighbor

March 28, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating cooked unpasteurized eggs from your neighbor.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Amazon.com: Chicken Egg Collecting Apron, 12 Deep Pockets Hen Duck Goose Eggs Holder Aprons : Home & Kitchen
  • Can shell eggs be pasteurized?
  • Salmonella in table eggs from farm to retail โ€“ When is cooling required? - ScienceDirect
  • A better way to pasteurize eggs
  • Guide to Sous Vide Eggs | The Food Lab
March 28, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Eggs, Backyard chickens

280. Thirty-Three Year Old Baseball Card Gum

March 25, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of chewing 33 year old baseball card gum.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Patrick Byrne on Twitter: "@midniteumbrella @Topps Paging @bugcounter and @benjaminchapman. #RiskyOrNot?" / Twitter
  • 188. Reused Chewing Gum โ€” Risky or Not?
  • The effect of chlorhexidine acetate/xylitol chewing gum on the plaque and gingival indices of elderly occupants in residential homes - Simons - 2001 - Journal of Clinical Periodontology - Wiley Online Library
  • Chew on this: No support for facilitating effects of gum on spatial task performance - ScienceDirect
  • Omya Recalls Ground Limestone for Salmonella
  • 10 Most Valuable 1989 Bowman Baseball Cards - Old Sports Cards
  • Chewing gum - Wikipedia
March 25, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Chewing gum, Expired foods

279. Letting a 20 Month Old Try Kombucha

March 23, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks letting a 20 month old try kombucha.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Lee Katz ๐Ÿž on Twitter: "@benjaminchapman @bugcounter Oops, 21 months old" / Twitter
  • Lee Katz - Atlanta, Georgia, Enteric Diseases Lab, CDC, Georgia Institute of Technology, Emory University | about.me
  • Micro binfie podcast on Apple Podcasts
  • Unexplained Severe Illness Possibly Associated with Consumption of Kombucha Tea -- Iowa, 1995
  • Health-Ade Kombucha | Sprouts Farmers Market
  • Understanding and Making Kombucha โ€“ Food Smart Colorado
  • Kombucha craze
  • Understand Kombucha
  • Whole Foods, Health-Ade Kombucha Class Action Settlement - Top Class Actions
  • Whole Foods Removes Kombucha - Supermarket News
  • Understanding and Making Kombucha โ€“ Food Smart Colorado
March 23, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Kombucha, Infant foods

278. Unprocessed, Unrefrigerated Apple Butter

March 21, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of consuming unprocessed, unrefrigerated apple butter received as a gift.

Dr. Don - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ
Professor Ben - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ

  • National Center for Home Food Preservation | How Do I? Can Fruits
  • Carla Schwan | UGA FACS
  • Home - Texas Cottage Food Law
  • Ball Complete Book of Home Preserving:
  • Apple Butter Recipe - NYT Cooking
March 21, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Apple butter, Water bath canning

277. Chicken Taco in a Backpack for a Day and a Half

March 18, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating a chicken taco in a backpack for a day and a half.

Dr. Don - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ
Professor Ben - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ

  • 270. Rice, Chicken, and Lo Mein Leftovers โ€” Risky or Not?
  • Don Schaffner ๐Ÿฆ  on Twitter: "@joellabes @PatrickRothfuss #Risky Pico de Gallo is not an antimicrobial!
  • Cubano sandwiches with Clostridium perfringens found in Alaska investigation | Food Safety News
  • Notes from the Field: Clostridium perfringens Outbreak at a Catered Lunch โ€” Connecticut, September 2016 | MMWR
  • Clostridium perfringens Foodborne Outbreak during an Athletic Event in Northern Greece, June 2019
  • NC church barbecue cited as link to outbreak that sickened 300 | Fox News
  • The Never-Ending Battle Against Sportโ€™s Hidden Foe - The New York Times
March 18, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Taco, Temperature control

276. Cold-Soaked Freeze-Dried Backpacking Food

March 16, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of cold-soaking freeze-dried backpacking food for 8 hours.

Dr. Don - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ
Professor Ben - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ

  • The Outer Banks | Things To Do, Hotels & Restaurants
  • Mountain House Pad Thai with Chicken - 2 Servings | REI Co-op
  • Cold-Soak No-Cook Backpacking Meals 101 - SectionHiker.com
  • Home - Philmont Scout Ranch High Adventure- Cimarron NM
  • Accidental Tech Podcast
  • Reconcilable Differences - Relay FM
  • โ€œPro Macs Triumph Blackโ€ graphic tee by Accidental Tech Podcast. | Cotton Bureau
  • The microbiological quality of various foods dried by applying different drying methods: a review
March 16, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Cold-soaking, Freeze-dried food, Backpacking

275. Cooking While COVID-19 Positive

March 14, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of transmitting COVID-19 when cooking while COVID-19 positive

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Gabrielle Schaffner on Twitter: "@bugcounter @benjaminchapman hereโ€™s a #riskyornot question: COVID + person, 5 days from + test, no symptomsโ€ฆrisky or not to cook for family members in isolation, without a mask on? (Cooking masked is really getting old but Iโ€™m willing!)" / Twitter
  • Potential for foodborne transmission Covid-19: ยป Meat Industry Association
  • Is It Safe to Cook for Other People During Coronavirus? | Food Network Healthy Eats: Recipes, Ideas, and Food News | Food Network
  • 270. Rice, Chicken, and Lo Mein Leftovers โ€” Risky or Not?
  • Food Safety and Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) | CDC
March 14, 2022 /Don Schaffner
COVID-19, Cooking, Food preparation

274. COVID-19 and Revolving Doors

March 11, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of contracting COVID-19 from walking through revolving doors.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • COVID-19 Quarantine and Isolation | CDC
  • Computational fluid dynamics - Wikipedia
  • Do revolving doors actually save energy? - Vox
  • Modifying Habits Towards Sustainability: A Study of Revolving Door Usage on the Mit Campus
  • Air Infiltration through revolving doors
  • Linsey C. Marr | Civil & Environmental Engineering | Virginia Tech
March 11, 2022 /Don Schaffner
COVID-19, Revolving doors

273. Cooking With Himalayan Soup Salter on a Rope

March 09, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of cooking with a Himalayan soup salter on a rope.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • not a bot on Twitter: "@bugcounter @benjaminchapman Himalayan Soup Salter: Risky or Not? I assume the salt block would be safe, but what about the rope? Dipping in stews, soups, and chili and just rinsing between uses? https://t.co/x47abYjtHV" / Twitter
  • Evaluation of oral fluids for surveillance of foodborne and zoonotic pathogens in pig farms - Franziska Schott, Karolin Hoffmann, Eleonora Sarno, Patrick D. Bangerter, Roger Stephan, Gudrun Overesch, Michael Haessig, Xaver Sidler, Robert Graage, 2021
March 09, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Salt, Cross-contamination

272. Thirteen Year Old Tapioca Flour

March 07, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from eating 13 year old tapioca flour.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • haroldina on Twitter: "@bugcounter @benjaminchapman I've got a bag of tapioca flour that's was opened back when I got it 13 years ago and stored in a ziplock bag in my pantry since then. There aren't any bugs in it and it's not clumped at all, so I expect it didn't get any moisture in it 1/2" / Twitter
  • Don argues on Twitter
  • An unusual case of anaphylaxis. Mold in pancake mix - PubMed
March 07, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Tapioca flour, Mold, Expired foods

271. Salt Rising Bread

March 04, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from salt rising bread.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • neil chazin on Twitter: "@atlasobscura @bugcounter thoughts on this bread method?" / Twitter
  • The Forgotten Baking Technique That Turns Bacteria Into Delicious, Cheesy Bread - Gastro Obscura
  • Food Safety Talk 84: All the Great Journals โ€” Food Safety Talk
  • Microbiology of salt rising bread - PubMed
  • Full article on Microbiology of salt rising bread
  • 264. Kapchunka โ€” Risky or Not?
March 04, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Bread, Salt rising bread, Clostridium perfringens

Spoiler alert - it wasnโ€™t the leftovers. Also, just be glad I didnโ€™t post any pictures from the NEJM.

270. Rice, Chicken, and Lo Mein Leftovers

March 02, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of shock, multiple organ failure, and rash after eating rice, chicken, and lo mein leftovers.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Case Challenge โ€” A 19-Year-Old Man with Shock, Multiple Organ Failure, and Rash โ€” NEJM
  • Dr. Glaucomflecken (@DGlaucomflecken) / Twitter
  • Meningococcal Disease | CDC
  • What a Food Safety Expert Says About Storing Leftovers After Teen's Food Poisoning-Amputation Case Goes Viral | Inside Edition
  • BAM Chapter 14: Bacillus cereus | FDA
March 02, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Medical doctors, Leftovers, Food poisoning

Cat sniffing a cat cake

269. Cat Licked Cake

February 28, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating cake licked by a cat.

Dr. Don - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ
Professor Ben - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ

  • Goudy Bold Italic on Twitter: "@benjaminchapman @bugcounter @firstbornspawn Risky or not: cake that a cat has been licking. Not frosted, plain top with occasional crumb topping. (Extra credit: gross or not?) Just happened, is it rude to not want to take home leftover cake after your hosts' cat has licked it?" / Twitter
  • Cats | Healthy Pets, Healthy People | CDC
  • 'Iโ€™m not a cat': lawyer gets stuck on Zoom kitten filter during court case - YouTube
  • Anaplasma, Ehrlichia and Rickettsia species infections in cats: European guidelines from the ABCD on prevention and management - Maria Grazia Pennisi, Regina Hofmann-Lehmann, Alan D Radford, Sรฉverine Tasker, Sรกndor Belรกk, Diane D Addie, Corine Boucraut-Baralon, Herman Egberink, Tadeusz Frymus, Tim Gruffydd-Jones, Katrin Hartmann, Marian C Horzinek, Margaret J Hosie, Albert Lloret, Hans Lutz, Fulvio Marsilio, Etienne Thiry, Uwe Truyen, Karin Mรถstl, 2017
  • Detection of Bartonella henselae in domestic cats' saliva
February 28, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Cat, Licking

268. Old Outbreak Peanut Butter

February 25, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating peanut butter linked to a food poisoning outbreak more than a decade ago.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Robbie Trencheny on Twitter: "@westernunion2k @bugcounter" / Twitter
  • ConAgra Agrees to Pay $11.2 Million for Salmonella Outbreak | Food Safety News
  • December 13, 2016: Conagra Subsidiary Sentenced in Connection with Outbreak of Salmonella Poisoning Related to Peanut Butter | FDA
  • Survival of Salmonella in peanut butter and peanut butter spread - Burnett - 2000 - Journal of Applied Microbiology - Wiley Online Library
  • Fate of Salmonella Tennessee in peanut butter at 4 and 22 degrees C - PubMed
  • Is trying to sell a recalled food product illegal - Hell, yes! | Marler Blog
  • Vintage Antique Peter Pan Peanut Butter Jar w/ Lid & Original Paper Label | eBay
February 25, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Peanut butter, Outbreak, Salmonella

267. Single Mouse Turd Near the Guacamole Ingredients

February 23, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from guacamole made from ingredients with a mouse turd nearby

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Mr. Show - Pre-Taped Call-in Show - YouTube
  • U.S. suspends Mexican avocado imports after threat to inspector
  • TK on Twitter: "@bugcounter @benjaminchapman Wife had a three tier bowl in kitchen. Garlic on top tier, then onions next, then potatoes. Made guac today (using onion and garlic) and then prepped potatoes for instant pot. Found a ๐Ÿญ dropping behind the bowl after food prep.Risky or not for guac?" / Twitter
  • Sprinkles - Wikipedia
  • Milk Chocolate Sprinkles by De Ruijter, 13.4 oz. (380 g) | Yummy Bazaar
  • How are Cockroaches and Palmetto Bugs Different? | Orkin
February 23, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Rodent, Feces, Guacamole

266. Linda's Molten Chocolate Lava Cakes

February 21, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of a Molten Chocolate Lava Cake recipe suggested by front of the show Dr. Linda Harris

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • The Best and The Easiest Molten Chocolate Lava Cakes - Averie Cooks
  • Presentation: Mug Cakes Baked in Microwave Ovens: The Influence of Baking Time and Internal Temperature on Risk of Foodborne Illness (IAFP 2017)
  • Molten Chocolate Cakes Recipe | Kraft Canada Cooking
  • Validation of a Simulated Commercial Frying Process to Control Salmonella in Donuts - PubMed
  • Desserts : Red Fish Grill Restaurant : New Orleans, Louisiana
  • Thermal inactivation of Salmonella during hard and soft cookies baking process - PubMed
February 21, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Cake, Baking
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