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359. Cooking with Cow Dung

September 26, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the food safety of risks cooking with cow dung.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Gau Kriti Cowcake Vadic Dhoop Cone/Incense Made from Cowcake/Gobar (Brown) - Box of 5 Packets - Patented Product : Amazon.ca: Home
  • Perfect Way Cow Dung Cake/UPLAS/Kanda for HAWAN PUJA : Amazon.ca: Home
  • Dry dung fuel - Wikipedia
September 26, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Manure, Cow dung

358. Vintage Jello

September 23, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating vintage Jello that is decades old.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Jell-O - Wikipedia
  • What is Jell-O? How does it turn from a liquid to a solid when it cools? - Scientific American
  • Vintage Jello And - Etsy
  • 268. Old Outbreak Peanut Butter โ€” Risky or Not?
September 23, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Jell-O, Gelatine, Shelf-life, Salmonella, Shelf life

357. Frog in Canadian Lettuce

September 21, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating lettuce from a container with a live frog in it.

Dr. Don - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ
Professor Ben - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ

  • Woman discovers live frog in sealed lettuce container in London, Ont., grocery store | CBC News
  • C h a n t e l S c o t t on Instagram: "The now famous frog in the lettuce I found at Sobeys in London Ontario! ๐Ÿธ ๐Ÿฅฌ UPDATE: I handed the mixed salad to an employee who took it to the manager. I asked employees if they were releasing the frog and they said yes after they file a report they would release it to the local pond up the street. (Someone also commented on TikTok that the manager has a terrarium for it so idk what happened sobeys manager only knows!๐Ÿ˜‡)"
  • Alive frog sealed into salad mixโ€ฆ @sobeys.official #sobeys #complimentssalad #frog
  • Outbreak of Salmonella Serotype Hartford Infections Associated With Unpasteurized Orange Juice | Infectious Diseases | JAMA | JAMA Network
  • There's a frog in my salad! A review of online media coverage for wild vertebrates found in prepackaged produce in the United States - ScienceDirect
  • Diversity of Pulsed-Field Gel Electrophoresis Pulsotypes, Serovars, and Antibiotic Resistance Among Salmonella Isolates from Wild Amphibians and Reptiles in the California Central Coast | Foodborne Pathogens and Disease
  • Coliforms, Escherichia coli and Salmonella Serovars Associated with a Citrus-Processing Facility Implicated in a Salmonellosis Outbreakโ€  | Journal of Food Protection
September 21, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Leafy greens, Frog, Salmonella

356. Uncooked Vegan Cookie Dough Stored Hot Car All Day

September 19, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from eating uncooked vegan cookie dough after it has been stored in a hot car all day.

Dr. Don - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ *
Professor Ben - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ *

* Over 350 perfect episodes and not a single mistake. We goofed. Itโ€™s right on the package. And the hot car is a red herring. If itโ€™s safe at room temperature the hot car reduces risk.

September 19, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Raw cookie dough, Salmonella, E. coli

355. Corn Water

September 16, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of keeping a half a corn cob in a sealed bottle of water, and sipping after a few days.

Dr. Don - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ
Professor Ben - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ

  • Don Schaffner ๐Ÿฆ  on Twitter: "@clairedwillett Please google โ€œpruno botulismโ€ ๐Ÿ˜ฌ" / Twitter
  • Pruno: A Recipe for Botulism | Botulism | CDC
  • Recipe: Fermented Corn โ€” FarmSteady
  • Southern Sour Corn Recipe - How to Make Lacto Fermented Corn
September 16, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Botulism, Corn

354. Max's Mom's Borscht

September 14, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of cooling Max's mom cooling uncovered borscht on the counter before refrigerating.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • 344. Max's Unwashed Basil โ€” Risky or Not?
  • 349. Refrigerating Food in Joshes Weird Tall Cup โ€” Risky or Not?
  • WAC 246-215-03515:
  • Borscht - Wikipedia
  • Who really owns borsch? - BBC Travel
  • Vigor Stainless Steel Stock Pot (20 Qt.): WebstaurantStore
  • Beet Kvass - Fermented Beet Juice [RECIPE!] | Polonist
September 14, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Borscht, Cooling

353. Cooking Chicken in a Hotel Coffeepot

September 12, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of trying to cook a chicken in a "hotel" coffeepot.

Dr. Don - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ
Professor Ben - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ

  • Nick Dawson on Twitter: "@bugcounter @benjaminchapman from Redditโ€ฆchicken cooked in a hotel room coffee carafe ๐Ÿคขhttps://t.co/t1Ad7LjgcO" / Twitter
  • Dave Harbarger on Twitter: "@bugcounter Apparently satireโ€ฆ butโ€ฆhereโ€™s a link to the original poster on Twitter. https://t.co/z8kAeeszfL" / Twitter
  • The labeled this "Career advice" : insanepeoplefacebook
  • Alex Cohen on Twitter: "This is my best LinkedIn post to date https://t.co/lfyGEGHuo8" / Twitter
  • ๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐Ÿณ๐Ÿ’‹ : LinkedInLunatics
  • HUTTEN 9-bottle wine rack, solid wood - IKEA
  • How hot does a coffee maker hot plate get? | Espresso Expert
  • FSIS Cooking Guideline for Meat and Poultry Products (Revised Appendix A) | Food Safety and Inspection Service
September 12, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Cooking, Chicken, Hotel

352. Slab Pancetta, 2 Months at 36 ยฐF

September 09, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from eating pancetta bacon stored for 2 months at 36 ยฐF.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Evan H B on Twitter: "@bugcounter question for the experts: what is the actual driver for safety risk for cured meat products held at low refrigeration temperatures? i have some slab pancetta that is about 2 months since it was cut from a larger piece by an unknown knife held at 36* since #riskyornot?" / Twitter
  • FoodKeeper App | FoodSafety.gov
  • Pancetta vs Bacon vs Prosciutto: What's the Difference? | Kitchn
  • Prosciutto - Wikipedia
  • Occurrence of mycotoxins in refrigerated pizza dough and risk assessment of exposure for the Spanish population - ScienceDirect
  • The Occurrence of Molds, Yeasts and Mycotoxins in Pre-Cooked Pizza Dough Sold in Southern Rio Grande Do Sul
  • Pathways of Mycotoxin Occurrence in Meat Products: A Review
September 09, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Pancetta, Bacon, Refrigeration

351. Kissing a Bird

September 07, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from kissing a parrot (Norwegian Blue, or other) or really any bird.

Dr. Don - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ
Professor Ben - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ

  • Animals on Instagram: "I canโ€™t handle how cute this is. I watched it like 20 times๐Ÿฅน Credits to @tamarasbluechicken via TikTok - - - - #funnyparrot #parrot #talkingparrot #cutepets #bird #animallovers"
  • Salmonella Outbreaks Linked to Backyard Poultry | CDC
  • Isolation of Salmonella enterica Serovar Enteritidis in Blue-Fronted Amazon Parrot (Amazona aestiva) | Avian Diseases
  • Testing for Salmonella Spp. In Released Parrots, Wild Parrots, and Domestic Fowl in Lowland Peru | Journal of Wildlife Diseases
  • Dead Parrot sketch - Wikipedia
  • The Parrot Sketch - Monty Python's Flying Circus - video Dailymotion
  • 8 Top Blue Parrot Species to Keep as Pets
September 07, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Birds, Salmonella, Kissing

350. Everything apron? Cross-contamin-apron

September 05, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of using the Everything Apron.

Dr. Don - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ
Professor Ben - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ

  • Jeff Tropeano on Twitter: "This abomination should be discussed in full by @benjaminchapman and @bugcounter on Risky or Not https://t.co/Agy8ZbHBJO" / Twitter
  • I prototype absurd invention ideas and this is the Everything Apron. : funny
  • Mise en place - Wikipedia
September 05, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Cross-contamination, Grilling

349. Refrigerating Food in Joshes Weird Tall Cup

September 02, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of refrigerating food in a tall container 3 inch wide or less.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ

  • joshincypress on Twitter: "@bugcounter @benjaminchapman Food safety question. You have mentioned not refrigerating dishes no more than three inches deep. Is this three inches measured in all directions? Would it be risky to refrigerate soup in this? https://t.co/vbtMs2kLcb" / Twitter
  • Washington State, Temperature and time controlโ€”Cooling 246-215-03515:
September 02, 2022 /Don Schaffner

348. Drinking a Glass of Polluted Water From a โ€˜Holy Riverโ€™

August 31, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of drinking drinking a glass of polluted water from a โ€˜holy riverโ€™, with bonus content from Ben's vacation.

Dr. Don - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ
Professor Ben - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ

  • Ashok Swain on Twitter: "Punjab Chief Minister openly drinks a glass of polluted water from a โ€˜holy riverโ€™ to prove that water is clean. Now admitted to hospital. https://t.co/MH1OLwUlUw" / Twitter
  • Latest Golf News - PGA TOUR
  • Gulf News: Latest UAE news, Dubai news, Business, travel news, Dubai Gold rate, prayer time, cinema
  • CDC - DPDx - Giardiasis
  • CDC - DPDx - Cryptosporidiosis
  • Recreational Water Quality Criteria and Methods | US EPA
  • Understanding Water Quality on Bass Lake
  • Water ingestion during swimming activities in a pool: A pilot study | Journal of Water and Health | IWA Publishing
August 31, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Water, Fecal pollution, E. coli

347. Soaking Uncooked Rice Overnight

August 29, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of soaking uncooked rice overnight.

Dr. Don - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ
Professor Ben - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ

  • The effects of heat activation on Bacillus spore germination, with nutrients or under high pressure, with or without various germination proteins - PubMed
  • Can You Soak Rice Overnight? Helpful Tips & Answers
  • Foodborne Disease Outbreaks Caused by Bacillus cereus, Clostridium perfringens, and Staphylococcus aureusโ€”United States, 1998โ€“2008 | Clinical Infectious Diseases | Oxford Academic
  • ComBase
  • CB Premium | Bacillus cereus on cooked rice
August 29, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Rice, Bacillus cereus, Time temperature control for safety

346. Skittles

August 26, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating Skittles candy.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Skittles Lawsuit Alleges the Fruit Candy Is 'Unfit for Human Consumption' - CNET
  • American service members in Europe will still be able to โ€˜taste the rainbow,โ€™ despite EU Skittles ban | Stars and Stripes
  • About Proposition 65 - OEHHA
  • Titanium dioxide - Wikipedia
  • Viral TikTok Falsely Says Tampon Titanium Dioxide Causes Cancer
  • Weight of epidemiological evidence for titanium dioxide risk assessment: current state and further needs | Journal of Exposure Science & Environmental Epidemiology
  • CFR - Code of Federal Regulations Title 21
  • Wine gum - Wikipedia
  • Jelly Babies - Wikipedia


August 26, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Candy, Titanium dioxide, Carcinogen

345. Keith's Exploding Canned Oranges

August 24, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from a swollen can of canned oranges several years out of date.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • not a bot on Twitter: "@bugcounter @benjaminchapman Can from the back of our pantry. Year from best by date is obliterated. Probably 5 yrs out of date. Very swollen can on both ends. Ready to explode. But the real question is: Risky or Not? https://t.co/o4PeJ73QjA" / Twitter
  • PHT 321: Causes of spoilage of canned/bottled products
  • (not a bot on Twitter: "@bugcounter @benjaminchapman Opened the tin (outside), some hissing as the pressure released and the oranges inside were covered with little grey bits of corrosion from the inside of the tin. Smelled ok; I did not taste them. https://t.co/26FUyik61P" / Twitter
August 24, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Canned food, Spoilage, Hydrogen swell, Swollen can

344. Max's Unwashed Basil

August 22, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks making pesto from homegrown basil without washing it first.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Full article: Surface decontamination of Salmonella Typhimurium and Escherichia coli on sweet basil by ozone microbubbles
August 22, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Basil, Fresh produce, Washing

343. Monkeypox in Food and on Food Packaging

August 19, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of getting monkeypox from food or food packaging.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Monkeypox infection: What is the risk of transmission through food? | Anses - Agence nationale de sรฉcuritรฉ sanitaire de lโ€™alimentation, de lโ€™environnement et du travail
  • Monkeypox | Poxvirus | CDC
  • WHO Monkeypox info
August 19, 2022 /Don Schaffner

342. Bedroom Pasta

August 17, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of drying egg noodles in your bedroom.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Ellen Shumaker | Agricultural and Human Sciences
  • Ellen Thomas Shumaker, PhD | LinkedIn
  • 327. Chicken Soup Unrefrigerated for More Than 6 Hours โ€” Risky or Not?
  • Washington Township, Clarion County, Pennsylvania - Wikipedia
  • Egg Noodles Recipe | Allrecipes
  • Temperature Dependent Growth Characteristics and a Predictive Mathematical Model of Bacillus Cereus in Wet Noodles - LEE - 2011 - Journal of Food Safety - Wiley Online Library
  • Making Homemade Noodles Safely โ€ข AnswerLine โ€ข Iowa State University Extension and Outreach
  • Microbiological Quality of Raw Dried Pasta from the German Market, with Special Emphasis on Cronobacter Species - PubMed
  • Critical conditions accelerating the deterioration of fresh noodles: A study on temperature, pH, water content, and water activity - Li - 2017 - Journal of Food Processing and Preservation - Wiley Online Library
August 17, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Noodles, Pasta, Bacillus cereus, Staphylococcus aureus

341. Leslie's Artichoke Dip

August 15, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from Leslie Hortonโ€™s horrendous holiday artichoke dip that tastes like vinegar but has no vinegar.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Woman Offers Her Signature Spinach Artichoke Dip To Anchors, Leaves Them Gagging On-Air
  • (Video of Leslie Hortonโ€™s horrendous holiday artichoke dip goes viral | Globalnews.ca
  • Amazon.com : Native Forest, Artichoke Hearts Marinated, 6 Ounce : Grocery & Gourmet Food
  • Easy Marinated Artichokes Recipe | Allrecipes
August 15, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Vinegar, Fermentation, Spoilage

340. Dried Chicken Juice Sponge

August 12, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from a sponge used to wipe up raw chicken juice, rinsed and let drive for several days.

Dr. Don - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ
Professor Ben - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ

  • Carnac the Magnificent - Wikipedia
  • Amazon.com: All the Pieces Matter: The Inside Story of The Wireยฎ eBook : Abrams, Jonathan: Kindle Store
  • Bacteria Survive on Kitchen Sponges and Towel in Restaurant and Foodservice Operations | ASM.org
August 12, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Meat juice, Sponges, Salmonella
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