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DALL·E - Prosciutto in a dirty plastic bag

555. Reusing a Prosciutto Plastic Bag

December 27, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of reusing a plastic bag for storing prosciutto in the refrigerator.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Prosciutto - Wikipedia
  • Amazon.com - FloWorks Design Elegant Wood Bag Dryer for Plastic Bags - Plastic Bag Dryer Rack for Better Kitchen Organization - Foldable & Hangable Plastic Bag Drying Rack - Reusable Bag Drying Rack
  • Investigation Details | Listeria Outbreak Linked to Deli Meat and Cheese | CDC
  • Interagency Risk Assessment: Listeria monocytogenes in Retail Delicatessens - Technical Report
  • Imported Prosciutto Products (Listeria) | Food Safety and Inspection Service


December 27, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Prosciutto, Listeria, Plastic bags, Cross-contamination

DALL·E - a cooked cow lung on a plate

554. Eating Lung

December 25, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating lung.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Haggis - Wikipedia
  • Shetland - Wikipedia
  • Lung eating is the subject of 2023's first petition from Philly MD | Food Safety News
  • 9 CFR § 310.16 - Disposition of lungs. | Electronic Code of Federal Regulations (e-CFR) | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute
  • How Do Gills Work? - Ocean Conservancy
  • Lebanese Style beef Lungs, kidney, heart and vegetables - CookEveryPart Recipe by Linda L. - Cookpad
  • The USDA’s 1971 lung-meat ban makes no sense, according to this doctor
December 25, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Lung, Organ meat

DALL·E - a clove of garlic in a pile of mud shaped like the country of China

553. Garlic From China

December 22, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of consuming garlic from China

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Chinese garlic is a national security risk, says US senator - BBC News
  • Sen. Rick Scott to Commerce: Sewage Garlic Grown in Communist China Has No Place...
  • Is it true that garlic in China is grown in human feces and watered with urine? | Office for Science and Society - McGill University
  • GOP Senator Rick Scott Trips Over His Own Asshole Trying to Defend Own Plan to Tax the Poor | Vanity Fair
  • Garlic—Allium sativum L.
  • Notes from the Field: Outbreaks of Cyclosporiasis — United States, June–August 2013
  • You're Buying Garlic That Is Bleached, Grown In Sewer Water, And From CHINA! - YouTube
December 22, 2023 /Don Schaffner

DALL·E - a slightly dented can of tunafish

552. Tuna From a Can Freshly Dented at Home

December 20, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating tuna from a can just dented at home.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • The Ultimate Podcasting Hack: Record in your closet and use two pillows | by Saron Yitbarek | Medium
  • Double seaming process guide - Industrial Physics
  • Is it safe to use food from dented cans?
  • Better Process Control School - Consumer Brands Association
  • food safety - What do to with cans that you just dented? - Seasoned Advice
December 20, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Canned food, Botulism

DALL·E - a bunch of jungle animals in a bathtub

551. Jungle Juice in a Tub

December 18, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of consuming "jungle juice" from a tub.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Braden Williams on X: "Drinking out of a tub - part 2? https://t.co/ELUa4MkqGi @bugcounter @benjaminchapman" / X
  • Jungle juice - Wikipedia
  • Jungle Juice for a Crowd Recipe
  • Can you safely cook or store food in galvanized trash cans?
  • 175. Drinking From the Bathroom Tub — Risky or Not?
  • Is it Safe for Food to be in… | American Galvanizers Association
  • Steve Jobs 'BOOM' complete compilation 1992-2010 - YouTube


December 18, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Alcohol, Tub, Galvanized steel

DALL·E - a pot of water on a stove teeming with bacteria

550. Water for Cooking Held in the Danger Zone

December 15, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of holding water used for cooking in a restaurant in the danger zone all day.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • FDA Food Code | FDA
  • FDA Food Code PDF
  • FDA Job Aid Time and Temperature Control for Safety Food


December 15, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Water, Time temperature control for safety

549. Putting a Turkey on Your Head

December 13, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of putting a raw turkey on your head.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • Matthew Perry - Wikipedia
  • The Christmas Turkey | Funny Clip | Mr. Bean Official - YouTube
  • lake effect kid on X: "@PopCrave @bugcounter @benjaminchapman risky or not" / X
  • Richard Curtis says Friends stole Mr Bean's turkey head joke
  • Love Actually - Wikipedia


December 13, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Turkey, Salmonella, Campylobacter, Poultry

DALL·E - dirty toilet brushes in the top rack of a dishwasher

548. Cleaning the Toilet Brushes in the Dishwasher Top Rack

December 11, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of cleaning your toilet brushes in the dishwasher top rack.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • I'm not proud of this, but I need to ask... Facebook
  • Is it safe to put toilet brush in dishwasher?
  • Method to Evaluate Factors Influencing the Microbial Reduction in Domestic Dishwashers | Journal of Applied Microbiology | Oxford Academic
  • Effective household disinfection methods of kitchen sponges - ScienceDirect
  • Development of a New Method to Identify Parameters Affecting the Microbial Reduction in Domestic Dishwashers- Dissertation
  • Hlavná stránka - Stránky JanHvizdak.com


December 11, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Dishwasher, Toilet brush

DALL·E - a can of food in a pantry next to a thermometer reading 105 degrees Fahrenheit

547. Overheated Canned and Jarred Foods

December 08, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of consuming canned and jarred foods that were exposed to temperatures over 100°F for several days.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Spoilage of Canned Foods - Food Microbiology: Principles into Practice - Wiley Online Library
  • Thermophilic Organisms Involved in Food Spoilage: Thermophilic Anaerobes not Producing Hydrogen Sulfide - PubMed
  • Thermophilic Organisms in Food Spoilage: Flat-Sour Aerobes - PubMed
  • FSIS Microbiology of Thermally Processed Foods
  • Mathematical Models for the Effects of pH, Temperature, and Sodium Chloride on the Growth of Bacillus stearothermophilus in Salty Carrots | Applied and Environmental Microbiology
December 08, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Canned food, Thermophilic spoilage

DALL·E - a pile of canned food in a bonfire

546. Canned Food From a Fire

December 06, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of consuming canned foods from a house where there was a fire.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Fires and Food Safety | Food Safety and Inspection Service
  • Men At Work - Down Under (Lyrics) - YouTube
  • https://Victoria Food Safety After A Fire
  • Food Safety After a Fire - Boulder County
  • Consumer Tips For Food Safety After Fires - MN Dept. of Health
  • What foods are safe if exposed to a fire?
  • Fires and Food Safety | Food Safety and Inspection Service
  • Food Safety Issues After a Fire - Extension
  • Food safety after a fire - Better Health Channel
  • Keep Food Safe After a Disaster or Emergency | Natural Disasters and Severe Weather | CDC
  • ‎SJ Gould Essay Summaries
  • Amazon.com: Wonderful Life: The Burgess Shale and the Nature of History: 9780393307009: Gould, Stephen Jay: Books
December 06, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Fire, Canned food

545. Steak House Pub Cheese in a Shared Crock

December 04, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of steak house pub cheese in a shared crock at Ye Olde Steak House in Knoxville, pre-pandemic.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • (3) Ryan on X: "@bugcounter @benjaminchapman Risky or Not: “steakhouse pub cheese passed around from table to table in a shared crock” here’s the source clip and link from the @aragusea podcast https://t.co/y6zwRtkbVi https://t.co/MLAuxOybJY" / X
  • Ye Olde Steak House and associated history (E71) — The Adam Ragusea Podcast — Overcast
  • What Is Pub Cheese?
  • Beer Cheese Dip - Pub-Style {with Video} - TidyMom®
  • Ye Olde Steak House - Knoxville, TN
  • Cheese dip served with a wooden tongue depresser ~ really? - Review of Ye Olde Steak House, Knoxville, TN - Tripadvisor
  • Underunderstood


December 04, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Pub cheese, Cross-contamination

DALL·E - a toddler stepping on a trash can pedal to open the trash can and sticking their head in the trash.

544. Toddler Getting Into Kitchen Trash

December 01, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks a toddler getting into kitchen trash.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Norovirus Outbreak Related to Contaminated Surfaces | The Journal of Infectious Diseases | Oxford Academic
  • Full article: Occurrence of bacteria and biochemical markers on public surfaces
December 01, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Trash can, Botulism, Listeria

DALL·E - a glass container half full of syrup filled with sausage links

543. Eating Table Syrup From IHOP Containing Food Hidden by College Students

November 29, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating table syrup from IHOP containing food hidden by college students.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • IHOP's New Syrup Containers
  • Amazon.com - 6 Oz. (Ounce) Glass Bulb Jar Syrup Dispenser, Sugar Dispenser, Retracting Spout, Dispensing Thumb-Lever, Pancake House Style (2) - Food Dispensers
November 29, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Syrup, Water activity, pH, Clostridium botulinum

DALL·E - a can of blueberries, with lots of foam coming out

542. Hissing Foaming Canned Blueberries

November 27, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from eating canned blueberries that hiss and foam on opening.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Krusteaz Mixes | Pancake, Waffle, Baking & Gluten Free Mixes
  • Krusteaz - Wikipedia
  • Clemson pH of common foods pdf
  • Spoilage of Canned Foods - Food Microbiology: Principles into Practice - Wiley Online Library
  • Krusty the Clown - Wikipedia


November 27, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Canning, Blueberries, pH

541. Unlicensed San Francisco Street Vendors

November 24, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of consuming food (specifically hot dogs wrapped in bacon) from unlicensed San Francisco street vendors.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • jonathan rauch: "@bugcounter hi dr don! is this…" - SFBA.social
  • lisa c: "I don't know who is running th…" - Mastodon
  • Don’t let the intoxicating aroma of frying onions trick you into eating unsafe food. Protect yourself from illnesses by not buying from… | Instagram
  • Negotiating Informality: Social and Economic Strategies of Latino Food Vendors in San Francisco’s Mission District | Participatory Urbanisms
November 24, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Street food, Licensed establishment

DALL·E - a turkey on a container of water

540. Cold Water Turkey Thawing

November 22, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of the USDA recommended cold water turkey thawing method.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • turkey - Risky or Not?
  • thawing - Risky or Not?
  • Turkey Basics: Safe Thawing | Food Safety and Inspection Service
  • Is it true thawing a turkey on the counter will make you sick? - The Washington Post
  • Prevalence of Salmonella, Campylobacter, and Shiga Toxin–Producing Escherichia coli on the Surfaces of Raw Poultry Packages - ScienceDirect
  • How is heat transferred when frozen meat is thawed by putting the container in a tub of cold water? | Homework.Study.com
  • Fluid dynamics and heat transfer in cold water thawing - ScienceDirect
  • Heat transfer - Wikipedia
November 22, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Turkey, Thawing, Cross-contamination

539. Using Tattler Reusable Plastic Canning Lids

November 20, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of using tattler reusable plastic canning lids for home canning.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • 43 Folders | Time, Attention, and Creative Work
  • The Guy Who Invented Inbox Zero Says We're All Doing It Wrong | Inc.com
  • Bob Barker - Wikipedia
  • Whose Line: If You Know What I Mean Compilation - Part 1 - YouTube
  • Tattler Reusable Canning Lids – Tattler Lids
  • Information – Tattler Lids
  • National Center for Home Food Preservation | How Do I? Can
  • The Band - Wikipedia
November 20, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Home canning, Tattler reusable canning lids

DALL·E - A fast food soda dispenser with a dirty glass of water

538. Bacteria in Fast-Food Soda Fountains

November 17, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of bacteria in fast-food soda fountains

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Salmonella, E-coli found in fast food soda fountain drinking water
  • Microbial contamination analysis of drinking water from bulk dispensers and fast-food restaurants in the Eastern Coachella Valley, California | Water Supply | IWA Publishing
  • Repeated detection of microbes in beverages dispensed from soda fountain machines and the effect of flushing on microbial density - ScienceDirect
  • Surface Sanitation and Microbiological Food Quality of a University Foodservice Operation
  • https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/document?repid=rep1&type=pdf&doi=e279d59f294da52a1fdecd2a74627bdb2bb5b477
  • Statistical Distributions Describing Microbial Quality of Surfaces and Foods in Food Service Operations - ScienceDirect
November 17, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Soda fountains, Dispenser tips

DALL·E - A turtle in a groceries cart in the fresh produce section of a store

537. Shopping in the Produce Section of a Store Where Someone Has Brought Their Pet Turtle

November 15, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks shopping in the produce section of a store where someone has brought their pet turtle.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Salmonella Outbreak Linked to Small Turtles | CDC
  • Veterinary Sciences | Free Full-Text | A Review of the Public Health Challenges of Salmonella and Turtles
  • Salmonella excretion by turtles. - PMC
  • Prevalence of Campylobacter, Salmonella, and Escherichia coli on the External Packaging of Raw Meat - ScienceDirect
  • Prevalence of Salmonella, Campylobacter, and Shiga Toxin–Producing Escherichia coli on the Surfaces of Raw Poultry Packages - ScienceDirect
  • Enumeration of Campylobacter and Salmonella on chicken packs | Emerald Insight
  • Incidence of Campylobacter and Salmonella isolated from retail chicken and associated packaging in South Wales | Letters in Applied Microbiology | Oxford Academic
  • Contamination by Meat Juice When Shopping for Packages of Raw Poultry - ScienceDirect
November 15, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Salmonella, Turtles, Fresh produce, Grocery store

536. Tajarin Dalla Forma

November 13, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks posed by Tajarin Dalla Forma as prepared by at Casa Bovina in Lincoln, Nebraska.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • French Chef makes Pasta from Giant Cheese Wheel on Paris Street #shorts #paris #pasta - YouTube
  • The Talk Show ✪: Ep. 388, With Christina Warren
  • Video from Casa Bovina on Facebook
  • Paper Hand Towels: C-Fold vs. Multifold vs. Singlefold
  • Consensus categorization of cheese based on water activity and pH—A rational approach to systemizing cheese diversity - ScienceDirect
  • The Producers (1967 film) - Wikipedia
November 13, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Tajarin Dalla Forma, Parmesan Cheese, Cross-contamination
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