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DALL·E - A realistic image of a cut avocado wrapped in plastic wrap, sitting on a kitchen counter. The kitchen counter is dimly lit, indicating it's the middle of the night.

665. Leaving a Cut Unripe Avocado at Room Temperature for a Day

September 09, 2024 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from leaving a cut unripe avocado at room temperature for a day.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

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  • Salmonella, Listeria monocytogenes, and Indicator Microorganisms on Hass Avocados Sold at Retail Markets in Guadalajara, Mexico - ScienceDirect
  • Behaviors of Salmonella enterica serovar Typhimurium and Listeria monocytogenes on whole avocado during storage at 21 or 7°C and their reduction by aqueous chlorine dioxide and peroxyacetic acid - ScienceDirect
  • Effect of storage temperature and time on the behavior of Salmonella, Listeria monocytogenes, and background microbiota on whole fresh avocados (Persea americana var Hass) - ScienceDirect
  • Survival of Salmonella spp., Escherichia coli O157:H7, and Listeria monocytogenes in Ready-to-Eat “Guacamole”: Role of Added Antimicrobials - PMC
  • Quality variables of “Hass” avocado stored in modified atmosphere packaging
September 09, 2024 /Don Schaffner
Avocado, Salmonella, Listeria, Time temperature control for safety food

DALL·E - A half of a cut watermelon sitting on a kitchen counter in the middle of the night. The kitchen is dimly lit, with a soft glow from a nearby light.

654. Cut Watermelon at Room Temperature for One Day or More

August 14, 2024 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from eating cut watermelon at room temperature for a day or more.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • Modeling the growth of Listeria monocytogenes on cut cantaloupe, honeydew and watermelon - ScienceDirect
  • Survival and Growth of Enterohemorrhagic Escherichia coli O157:H7 in Cantaloupe and Watermelon - ScienceDirect
  • Growth of Salmonella spp. in Cantaloupe, Watermelon, and Honeydew Melons - ScienceDirect
  • Merch — Risky or Not?
  • Caricature Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster
August 14, 2024 /Don Schaffner
Watermelon, Time temperature control for safety food, Listeria, Salmonella

DALL·E - A clear plastic bag filled with baby carrots. There is a small amount of liquid at the bottom of the bag, and a faint, whimsical hint of a few happy microorganisms.

625. Eating Expired Baby Carrots

June 07, 2024 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating baby carrots passed their expiration date.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • 556. Storing Celery and Carrots in Water in the Refrigerator — Risky or Not?
  • 1: Non-Canonical First Episode — Risky or Not?
  • Inhibitory effects of raw carrots on Listeria monocytogenes | Applied and Environmental Microbiology
  • Inhibition of foodborne pathogens by native microflora recovered from fresh peeled baby carrot and propagated in cultures - PubMed
  • ComBase Models Are Valid for Predicting Fate of Listeria monocytogenes on 10 Whole Intact Raw Fruits and Vegetables - ScienceDirect
  • How to Store Carrots and Make Them Last | Glad®
  • Grimmway Farms Voluntarily Recalls Certain Retail-Packaged Carrots Due to Potential Salmonella Contamination | FDA
June 07, 2024 /Don Schaffner
Carrots, Listeria, Shelf-life

DALL·E - A dark and ominous image showing a single small apple slice inside a tiny, translucent plastic bag resting on a kitchen counter.

604. A Cut Apple That Has Been to School Twice

April 20, 2024 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of sending a kid to school with a cut apple that has already been to school the day before.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • ComBase
  • Growth of Listeria monocytogenes within a Caramel-Coated Apple Microenvironment | mBio
  • Multistate outbreak of Listeria monocytogenes infections linked to whole apples used in commercially produced, prepackaged caramel apples: United States, 2014–2015 | Epidemiology & Infection | Cambridge Core
  • Survival of outbreak, food, and environmental strains of Listeria monocytogenes on whole apples as affected by cultivar and wax coating | Scientific Reports
  • Fate of Listeria monocytogenes in Fresh Apples and Caramel Apples - ScienceDirect
  • Prevalence of Listeria Species on Food Contact Surfaces in Washington State Apple Packinghouses | Applied and Environmental Microbiology
  • https://apsjournals.apsnet.org/doi/pdf/10.1094/pdis.2000.84.2.177
  • Bacterial meningitis in the United States in 1995. Active Surveillance Team - PubMed
  • Foods | Free Full-Text | Updated Parameters for Listeria monocytogenes Dose–Response Model Considering Pathogen Virulence and Age and Sex of Consumer
April 20, 2024 /Don Schaffner
Apple, Cut fruit, Listeria, Time temperature control for safety food

DALL·E - A very old-looking refrigerator with a slightly open door. Inside, a thermometer is visible, displaying a temperature of 45°F.

598. Laura's Misbehaving Fridge

April 05, 2024 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of storing food in a refrigerator that keeps food at 42-45 °F.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Changes to Cold Holding Temperatures and Date Marking- North Carolina Public Health
  • The “Danger Zone” Reevaluated | Food Safety
  • ComBase Home
  • Parameters for Determining Inoculated Pack/Challenge Study Protocols - ScienceDirect
April 05, 2024 /Don Schaffner
Time temperature control for safety food, Listeria

DALL·E - cut celery and carrots standing vertically in jar of dirty water

556. Storing Celery and Carrots in Water in the Refrigerator

December 29, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of storing celery and carrots submerged in water in the refrigerator.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • Instagram Screenshot
  • Inhibitory effects of raw carrots on Listeria monocytogenes. - PMC
  • ComBase Models Are Valid for Predicting Fate of Listeria monocytogenes on 10 Whole Intact Raw Fruits and Vegetables - ScienceDirect
  • Hospital-acquired listeriosis outbreak caused by contaminated diced celery--Texas, 2010 - PubMed
  • Listeria monocytogenes transfer during mechanical dicing of celery and growth during subsequent storage - PubMed
  • Analysis of domestic refrigerator temperatures and home storage time distributions for shelf-life studies and food safety risk assessment - ScienceDirect
  • Food Safety Knowledge of Consumers and the Microbiological and Temperature Status of Their Refrigerators - ScienceDirect
  • https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Fur-Chi-Chen/publication/256115808_Comprehensive_evaluation_of_temperatures_within_home_refrigerators/links/5540dfcb0cf2718618dbb655/Comprehensive-evaluation-of-temperatures-within-home-refrigerators.pdf
December 29, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Carrots, Celery, Refrigerated foods, Water activity, Listeria

DALL·E - Prosciutto in a dirty plastic bag

555. Reusing a Prosciutto Plastic Bag

December 27, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of reusing a plastic bag for storing prosciutto in the refrigerator.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

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  • Investigation Details | Listeria Outbreak Linked to Deli Meat and Cheese | CDC
  • Interagency Risk Assessment: Listeria monocytogenes in Retail Delicatessens - Technical Report
  • Imported Prosciutto Products (Listeria) | Food Safety and Inspection Service


December 27, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Prosciutto, Listeria, Plastic bags, Cross-contamination

DALL·E - a toddler stepping on a trash can pedal to open the trash can and sticking their head in the trash.

544. Toddler Getting Into Kitchen Trash

December 01, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks a toddler getting into kitchen trash.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Norovirus Outbreak Related to Contaminated Surfaces | The Journal of Infectious Diseases | Oxford Academic
  • Full article: Occurrence of bacteria and biochemical markers on public surfaces
December 01, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Trash can, Botulism, Listeria

DALL·E variations on A guy with red beam shooting out of his eyes. The red beams are slicing an avocado. In the style of Jack Kirby

504. The Chipotle Autocado

August 30, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks posed by the avocado cutting machine known as the Autocado.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Lee Katz @lskatz@mstdn.science on X: "@benjaminchapman @bugcounter introducing the autocado, a new avocado cutting machine. #riskyornot? I feel like it would be risky unless there is a really good plan to clean it. Thinking of this FDA report too with all the contamination on the rinds. https://t.co/Fi0BDfDInv" / X
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  • You need to wash avocados, unless you want listeria
  • Evaluation of Avocados as a Possible Source of Listeria monocytogenes Infections, United States, 2016 to 2019 - PubMed
  • Internalization of Listeria monocytogenes in Whole Avocado - ScienceDirect
  • Behavior of Listeria monocytogenes in Avocado Pulp and Processed Guacamole - ScienceDirect
  • Successful management of Listeria spp. in an avocado processing facility - ScienceDirect
  • 334. Snacklebox — Risky or Not?
  • The other James Marsden - Wikipedia
August 30, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Avocados, Listeria, Sanitation

481. Eating Chopped Salad From Portillo’s While Pregnant

July 07, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating a chopped salad from Portillo’s while pregnant.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Salads | Portillo's
  • People at Risk: Pregnant Women | FoodSafety.gov
  • Quantitative Assessment of Relative Risk to Public Health from Foodborne Listeria monocytogenes Among Selected Categories of Ready-to-Eat Foods | FDA
  • National Outbreak Reporting System (NORS) Dashboard | CDC
  • Listeria monocytogenes in Gorgonzola: subtypes, diversity and persistence over time - PubMed
  • Listeriosis associated with gorgonzola (Italian blue-veined cheese) - PubMed
July 07, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Deli meats, Listeria, Cheese

DALL·E 10 egg yolks in liquid in a glass bowl in the refrigerator from a distance

441. Pooled Eggs in the Fridge for 10 Days

April 05, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of storing cracked pooled eggs in the fridge for 10 days.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

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  • Toledo
  • Isolation of Listeria Spp. From Faecal Samples of Cracked Egg Fed Chickens and Rapd Analysis of Listeria Monocytogenes Strains
April 05, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Eggs, Salmonella, Pooling, Listeria

That’s a lot of corn dogs…

423. Pastor Pinkston's Plentiful Pork Products

February 22, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of storing frozen corn dogs in the refrigerator for several weeks.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Classic | State Fair Corn Dogs
  • Listeria Fear Prompts 372,000 Pound Hot Dog, Corn Dog Recall | Food Manufacturing
  • Sara Lee Corp. Pleads Guilty In Meat Case - The New York Times
  • Update: Multistate Outbreak of Listeriosis -- United States, 1998-1999
February 22, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Frozen food, Refrigeration, Listeria, Corndogs

419 DALL·E 2023-02-07 12.44.04 - frozen peas, corn, carrots, bell pepper, and onion in yogurt with cumin and cayenne

419. Frozen Mixed Veggies in Yogurt

February 13, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of mixing uncooked, frozen vegetables into yogurt and storing for several days in your refrigerator.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • 163. Corn and Peas Microwaved for 90 Seconds — Risky or Not?
  • Multistate Outbreak of Listeriosis Linked to Frozen Vegetables | Listeria | CDC
  • Frederick Breidt : USDA ARS


February 13, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Yogurt, Frozen vegetables, Listeria

314. Unrefrigerated Cut Watermelon Over Night

June 13, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating cut watermelon left unrefrigerated overnight

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • Growth of Salmonella spp. in Cantaloupe, Watermelon, and Honeydew Melons | Journal of Food Protection
  • Effect of time before storage and storage temperature on survival of Salmonella inoculated on fresh-cut melons - ScienceDirect
  • Survival and Growth of Enterohemorrhagic Escherichia coli O157:H7 in Cantaloupe and Watermelon | Journal of Food Protection
  • Modeling the growth of Listeria monocytogenes on cut cantaloupe, honeydew and watermelon - ScienceDirect
  • Outbreaks Associated with Cantaloupe, Watermelon, and Honeydew in the United States, 1973–2011 | Foodborne Pathogens and Disease
June 13, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Fruit, Fresh produce, Salmonella, Listeria, E. coli

306. Plant Based Deli Meat and Soft Cheeses for a Pregnant Woman

May 25, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of plant based deli meat and soft cheeses for a pregnant woman.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • ‎Brief Nut Milk Cheese Risk Analysis

  • Viability of Shiga Toxin–producing Escherichia Coli, Salmonella, and Listeria monocytogenes Within Plant Versus Beef Burgers During Cold Storage and Following Pan Frying | Journal of Food Protection

  • Listeria Found Inside Vegan Food Plant | Food Safety News

May 25, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Plant based foods, Listeria

234. Salmon at 43 °F for 15 Hours

December 08, 2021 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of holding salmon at 43 °F for 15 hours.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Merch — Risky or Not?
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  • Risk of Growth and Toxin Production by Clostridium botulinum Nonproteolytic Types B, E, and F in Salmon Fillets Stored Under Modified Atmospheres at Low and Abused Temperatures | Journal of Food Protection
  • Conservative Prediction of Time to Clostridium botulinum Toxin Formation for Use with Time-Temperature Indicators To Ensure the Safety of Foods | Journal of Food Protection
December 08, 2021 /Don Schaffner
Salmon, Temperature abuse, Listeria, Clostridium botulinum
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196. Raw Eggo Waffles

September 10, 2021 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from eating raw frozen Eggo waffles.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • (Ryan Dlugosz on Twitter: "@bugcounter @benjaminchapman I always assumed frozen waffles were ready to eat (see pic). Is it #riskyornot to eat them frozen? Fwiw I’m not a monster and I always lightly toast mine… but one of the kids prefers them frozen! https://t.co/o6PLdlVwYC" / Twitter
  • Kellogg Co. recalls Eggo waffles after routine test shows Listeria | Food Safety News
  • Food Safety Talk 12: Dueling Experts — Food Safety Talk
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  • 'Stranger Things' caused an Eggo boom. Now sales are waffling
  • Siracusa on Toasters — Liss is More
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September 10, 2021 /Don Schaffner
Frozen Waffles, Listeria
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163. Corn and Peas Microwaved for 90 Seconds

June 25, 2021 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from eating frozen corn and peas microwaved for only 90 seconds.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • Heat Resistance of Listeria monocytogenes in Vegetables: Evaluation of Blanching Processes | Journal of Food Protection
  • Thermal Inactivation of Listeria monocytogenes and Salmonella during Water and Steam Blanching of Vegetables | Journal of Food Protection
  • Listeria monocytogenes Dose Response Revisited—Incorporating Adjustments for Variability in Strain Virulence and Host Susceptibility - Pouillot* - 2015 - Risk Analysis - Wiley Online Library
  • An Assessment of Listeriosis Risk Associated with a Contaminated Production Lot of Frozen Vegetables Consumed under Alternative Consumer Handling Scenarios - PubMed
June 25, 2021 /Don Schaffner
Microwave Cooking, Frozen Corn, Frozen Peas, Listeria
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152. Traditional Québécois Acadian Salted Herbs

May 31, 2021 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating traditional Québécois Acadian salted herbs.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Randal Oulton on Twitter: "Traditional Québécois / Acadian salted herbs
  • Herbes salées vide-jardin | Mordu
  • CooksInfo Food Encyclopaedia - CooksInfo
  • How to make your own sauerkraut | UMN Extension
  • ComBase
  • (32) Greg Davies "Vegetables" - Would I Lie to You? - YouTube
  • Classification of fermented foods: worldwide review of household fermentation techniques - ScienceDirect
  • Effect of temperature, sodium chloride, and pH on growth of Listeria monocytogenes in cabbage juice. | Applied and Environmental Microbiology
  • New perspectives on the gastrointestinal mode of transmission in invasive Listeria monocytogenes infection - PubMed
May 31, 2021 /Don Schaffner
Vegetables, Salt, Listeria
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132. Sending Unheated Hot Dogs in a Kids Lunch

April 14, 2021 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of sending unheated hot dogs in a kids lunch

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • ComBase
  • Reducing the Incidence of Listeria on Ready-to-Eat Meat and Poultry Products – Three Alternatives, University of Wisconsin-Madison Center for Meat Process Validation
  • Controlling Listeria monocytogenes in Post-lethality Exposed Ready-to-Eat Meat and Poultry Products | Food Safety and Inspection Service
  • Interagency Risk Assessment: Listeria monocytogenes in Retail Delicatessens - Technical Report
April 14, 2021 /Don Schaffner
Hot Dogs, Listeria, School Lunch
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