Risky or Not?

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301. "Canning" Without "Cooking"

May 13, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from some weird recipes from 1918.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Dave Arnold on Twitter: "@benjaminchapman @bugcounter No heat no acid canning? I know this is risky. My question is, is there any way this could possibly be safe? โ€œCanning Without Cookingโ€ from American Cookery (formerly Boston Cooking School Mag)June/July 1918. https://t.co/Z0dcl1Bqg1" / Twitter
  • Thermal Resistance of Spores from pH, Elevating Strains of Bacillus licheniformis - MONTVILLE - 1981 - Journal of Food Science - Wiley Online Library
  • Inherent Variability in the Efficacy of the USDA Rawโ€Pack Process for Homeโ€Canned Tomatoes - MONTVILLE - 1983 - Journal of Food Science - Wiley Online Library
  • 293. Low Volume Lasagna at Olive Garden โ€” Risky or Not?
May 13, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Canning, pH, Sugar, Water activity

300. Washing Your Toilet Seat in Your Dishwasher

May 11, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of washing your toilet seat in your dishwasher.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Jen (@jmac0825) TikTok | Watch Jen's Newest TikTok Videos
  • 294. Hand Washing Raw Meat Dishes โ€” Risky or Not?
  • A method to evaluate factors influencing the microbial reduction in domestic dishwashers - Brands - 2020 - Journal of Applied Microbiology - Wiley Online Library
  • Hygiene in Commercial Dishwashing โ€“ A Review about the State of Knowledge in Research, Standardization, Regulation and Market Information
  • https://www.foodstandards.gov.au/publications/documents/Appendi3.pdf
May 11, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Dishwasher, Toilet

299. Rihanna's Ocean Dipped Mangos

May 09, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating Rihanna's ocean dipped mangos.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Michelle Jewell on Twitter: "@gabgonebad #riskyornot? @benjaminchapman @bugcounter" / Twitter
  • Ingestion of swimming pool water by recreational swimmers | Journal of Water and Health | IWA Publishing
  • The coastal environment and human health: microbial indicators, pathogens, sentinels and reservoirs | Environmental Health | Full Text
  • Pregnant Travelers - Chapter 7 - 2020 Yellow Book | Travelers' Health | CDC
  • โ€˜Our Water Supply is being Managed like a Rumshopโ€™: Water Governance in Barbados: Social and Environmental Accountability Journal: Vol 31, No 2
May 09, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Seawater, Mangoes, Cross-contamination

298. Canadian Airport Toilet Vegetables

May 06, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating vegetables found in a Canadian airport toilet.

Dr. Don - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Mysterious toilet vegetables shock travellers at Toronto's Pearson Airport
  • bury the lede - Wiktionary
  • Found a toilet full of vegetables at Pearson International Airport : mildlyinteresting
May 06, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Canada, Toilet, Airport, Vegetables

297. Poultry Cooked to 150 ยฐF (Plus Carryover)

May 04, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of cooking poultry to 150 ยฐF plus carryover heating.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • How to Check If Your Turkey's Cooked to the Right Temperature
  • USDA FSIS Appendix A

While searching for show art, Don came across the page linked below. This provides a more quantitative assessment, but does not change the overall conclusions.

  • The Science of Carryover Cooking: What Happens After You Cook |
May 04, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Cooking, Poultry, Temperature

296. Pastor Pinkston's Putrid (?) Pork

May 02, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of Pastor Pinkston's pork chops. forgotten in the refrigerator for two weeks.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • ComBase
  • Growth and inactivation of Salmonella enterica and Listeria monocytogenes in broth and validation in ground pork meat during simulated home storage abusive temperature and home pan-frying - PMC
May 02, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Spoilage, Pork, Refrigerator

295. Baked Refrigerated Dough After Five Days in the Refrigerator

April 29, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating baked refrigerated raw dough after five days in the refrigerator.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • 282. Sage's Steak Cookies โ€” Risky or Not?
  • (147) Dry-aged Bacon Fat Cookie Cake with Miso Caramel | What's in the Fridge? Basics with Babish - YouTube
  • FoodKeeper App | FoodSafety.gov
April 29, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Dough, Refrigerator

294. Hand Washing Raw Meat Dishes

April 27, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of hand washing raw meat dishes when you don't have an automatic dishwasher.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ

  • The survival of foodborne pathogens during domestic washing-up and subsequent transfer onto washing-up sponges, kitchen surfaces and food - ScienceDirect
  • The survival of foodborne pathogens during domestic washing-up and subsequent transfer onto washing-up sponges, kitchen surfaces and food - ScienceDirect
  • doi:10.1016/S0168-1605(02)00510-X | Elsevier Enhanced Reader
  • Quantifying the Effect of Hand Wash Duration, Soap Use, Ground Beef Debris, and Drying Methods on the Removal of Enterobacter aerogenes on Hands | Journal of Food Protection
  • PURELLยฎ Multi-Surface Disinfectant | 3345-06-INT00
April 27, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Raw meat, Washing dishes

293. Low Volume Lasagna at Olive Garden

April 25, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of low volume lasagna (made with beef reused over 11 days) at Olive Garden.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Reply to @nc_704 | with Music original sound - Andrew
  • Landon Conover #Vaccinated #EXTREME MASKER on Twitter: "#RiskyorNot @bugcounter @benjaminchapman This seems pretty crazyโ€ฆ #TikTok https://t.co/rTGCvQ77Ox" / Twitter
  • Darden Restaurants: A Leader in the Full-Service Restaurant Industry
  • Tyndallization - Wikipedia
April 25, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Reheating, Tyndallization, Leftovers

292. Whole Strawberries at Room Temperature for 24 Hr

April 22, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of leaving whole strawberries at room temperature for 24 hr.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Justin on Twitter: "@bugcounter @benjaminchapman #riskyOrNot Feeding my toddler strawberries that were purchased from the grocery store, kept in the fridge for a few days, then left out on the counter at room temperature for 24 hours before finally cutting them up." / Twitter
  • Survival of Listeria monocytogenes on fresh and frozen strawberries - ScienceDirect
  • PDF of Survival of Listeria monocytogenes on fresh and frozen strawberries by Stephan Flessa, Dawn M. Lusk, and Linda J. Harris
  • ComBase Models Are Valid for Predicting Fate of Listeria monocytogenes on 10 Whole Intact Raw Fruits and Vegetables | Journal of Food Protection
  • Growth and Survival of Listeria monocytogenes on Intact Fruit and Vegetable Surfaces During Postharvest Handling: A Systematic Literature Review | Journal of Food Protection
  • ComBase
  • Food and Foodstuff - pH Values
April 22, 2022 /Don Schaffner

291. RTE Greens With Dirt in the Package

April 20, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from eating RTE greens with dirt in the package.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • BrightFarms Announces Voluntary Recall Expansion of Packaged Salad Greens Sold in Illinois, Wisconsin, Iowa, Indiana and Michigan | FDA
  • Consumer Complaint Coordinators | FDA
  • BrightFarms | Fresh Baby Greens Grown for Locals
  • BrightFarms | FAQ: Learn More About Our Products and How We Grow
  • Investigation Details | Salmonella Outbreak Linked to BrightFarms Packaged Salad Greens | CDC
April 20, 2022 /Don Schaffner
RTE leafy greens, Dirt

290. Yeeting a Real Fish Into a Crowd

April 18, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of yeeting a real fish into a crowd.

Dr. Don - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ
Professor Ben - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ

  • yeet Meaning & Origin | Slang by Dictionary.com
  • Seattle Kraken - Wikipedia
  • Hartford Whalers - Wikipedia
  • Three stars (ice hockey) - Wikipedia)
  • Andrew Branagan on Twitter: "@SeattleKraken @NHL @benjaminchapman @bugcounter Yeeting a fish into a crowd. Risky or not?" / Twitter
  • Nashville Predators Catfish Tradition: Why Fans Throw Catfish on the Ice - Thrillist
  • Legend of the Octopus - Wikipedia
  • Cornellโ€“Harvard hockey rivalry - Wikipedia
  • Inside the Fish-Throwing Tradition at Lynah Rink | The Cornell Daily Sun
April 18, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Yeeting, Fish, Hockey

289. Last Years Easter Treats at Ben's House

April 15, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating last years forgotten Easter treats at Ben's house.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Easter/Series | American Gods Wiki | Fandom
  • Happy Days ยท Sit on it! - YouTube
April 15, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Easter, Shelf-stable food

288. Really Old Soda

April 13, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of drinking really old soda.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Joe Ovies on Twitter: "1982 UNC โ€œblue sodaโ€ 1983 NC State โ€œred sodaโ€ @giglio_OG and I invited the possibility of poisoning by cracking open these ancient artifacts. https://t.co/qubOxCA3iQ" / Twitter
  • Food safety expert, UGA professor dishes on safety tips | AccessWDUN.com
  • FoodKeeper App | FoodSafety.gov
  • Is buying soda with an expired date on it dangerous?
April 13, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Soda, Expired food

287. Rice Used to Dry Out Phone Dropped in Water

April 11, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating Rice used to dry out a phone dropped in water.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • bill quoted on Twitter: "@benjaminchapman @bugcounter Dropped a phone in a puddle of water and placed it in rice to dry. Risky or not to cook and eat the rice?" / Twitter
  • Food Safety Talk 92: So we can't use that rice? โ€” Food Safety Talk
  • Flight of the Conchords- Business Time - YouTube
  • Semisonic - Closing Time (Official Music Video) - YouTube
April 11, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Rice, Phone

286. Eating in a Restaurant Built on a Graveyard

April 08, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating in a restaurant built on a graveyard.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • 101 Indian Street Food Dishes to Eat Before You Die - YouTube
  • The New Lucky Restaurant โ€“ Ahmedabad, India - Gastro Obscura
  • The New Lucky Restaurant in India Has Tables Set up Around Graves
  • New Lucky Restaurant Ahmedabad Gujarat I Lucky restaurant | Times of India Travel
  • Can you have a picnic in a cemetery? Historic American tradition explained
  • Remembering When Americans Picnicked in Cemeteries - Gastro Obscura
  • 218. Returning Food Trucks to Use After Holding COVID-19 Bodies โ€” Risky or Not?
  • Returning Refrigerated Transport Vehicles and Refrigerated Storage Units to Food Uses After Using Them to Preserve Human Remains During the COVID-19 Pandemic | FDA
April 08, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Graveyard, Restaurant

285. Bringing Your Own Banana

April 06, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from eating a banana split from a "bring your own banana" shop.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • 14: Budnik's Banana โ€” Risky or Not?
  • Bruster's Ice Cream
  • Survival of Listeria innocua, Salmonella salford and Escherichia coli on the surface of fruit with inedible skins - ScienceDirect
  • Watch on Facebook?
April 06, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Banana, Cross-contamination

284. Dog Kisses

April 04, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from getting kissed by your dog.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Capnocytophaga | CDC
  • Man dies after being licked by his dog and contracting rare infection | CNN
  • View of Being Licked by a Dog Can Be Fatal: Capnocytophaga canimorsus Sepsis with Purpura Fulminans in an Immunocompetent Man
  • Occurrence of Salmonella, Campylobacter, Clostridium and Enterobacteriaceae in raw meatโ€based diets for dogs
April 04, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Dogs, Kissing

283. Infant Formula After a Few Ants Are Removed

April 01, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from consuming liquid infant formula after a few ants are removed from the dry powder.

Dr. Don - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Professor Ben - not risky ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

  • Ants as potential vectors of pathogens in hospitals in the state of sao paulo, brazil | International Journal of Tropical Insect Science | Cambridge Core
  • A study on the potential of ants to act as vectors of foodborne pathogens - PMC
  • Justin on Twitter: "@bugcounter @benjaminchapman #riskyOrNot feeding a baby a bottle after finding and removing a few ants in the box of formula" / Twitter
  • 159. Food, Once a Fly Has Landed on It โ€” Risky or Not?
April 01, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Ants, Infant formula

282. Sage's Steak Cookies

March 30, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of making cookies with steak chips.

Dr. Don - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ
Professor Ben - risky โ˜ฃ๏ธ

  • Sage (@SageOlson) / Twitter
  • Glazed Burnt End Chocolate Chip Cookies | Beef Loving Texans
  • Fate of Escherichia coli O157:H7, Listeria monocytogenes, and Salmonella typhimurium during Preparation and Storage of Beef Jerky | Journal of Food Protection
  • Brisket Chocolate Chip Cookies Recipe - Barbecuebible.com
  • Home - Texas Cottage Food Law
  • From Jam to Jerky: Water Activity and the Science of Preservation
March 30, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Cookies, Meat
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