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Justin’s actual frosting.

829. Betty Crocker Frosting Stored Out of Refrigeration

September 26, 2025 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of storing frosting that says "Cover and refrigerate leftover frosting up to 30 days" at room temperature after opening.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Justin Ekins on X: "@benjaminchapman @bugcounter would it be risky or not to store this Betty Crocker vanilla frosting out of the refrigerator for, say, 6 months after opening and then use it to frost a cake? https://t.co/k7NDNlSksq" / X
  • Let Them Eat Cake | Chemical Engineering Education
September 26, 2025 /Don Schaffner
Frosting, Water activity, Shelf-life

DALL·E image text: Four cheerful club members gather around a table piled with dusty, vintage MRE packages. A wooden sign above them reads “Vintage MRE Club.” The group smiles with excitement, examining the old rations in a cozy, wood-paneled room that captures the nostalgic and quirky spirit of their unusual hobby.

828. Vintage US Meals, Ready-to-Eat (MREs)

September 24, 2025 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of consuming "vintage" (i.e., old) MREs from around the world, but focusing in those from the US.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Meal, Ready-to-Eat - Wikipedia
  • Ensuring the Safety and Quality of RTE Meals for U.S. Service Members | Food Safety
  • Jeremy Zenlea | LinkedIn
  • Army researchers dug into the effects of MREs on gut health, here's what they discovered | Article | The United States Army
  • Shelf-Stable Food Safety | Food Safety and Inspection Service
  • Mathematical Models for the Effects of pH, Temperature, and Sodium Chloride on the Growth of Bacillus stearothermophilus in Salty Carrots - PubMed
  • Mathematical Models for the Effects of pH, Temperature, and Sodium Chloride on the Growth of Bacillus stearothermophilus in Salty Carrots
September 24, 2025 /Don Schaffner
Meals Ready-to-Eat, MREs, Shelf-life

Screen capture from TikTok

827. Bloated Meat Packages

September 22, 2025 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of meat from puffy or bloated packages.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Basset Hound Bloat Chart
  • 465. Kurtis's Puffy Sausage — Risky or Not?
  • Are "Bloated" Meat Packages Safe? We Asked a Food Safety Expert | The Kitchn
  • TikTok - Always check your meat for this!
  • Modified Atmosphere and Vacuum Packaging of Meat and Poultry Products: Food Reviews International: Vol 18, No 4
  • Advancing sustainability through modified atmosphere packaging (MAP) for fresh food preservation: A critical review - ScienceDirect
September 22, 2025 /Don Schaffner
Spoilage, Meat, Modified atmosphere packaging

A man at a baseball stadium concession stand holds a hamburger, frowning at a messy stack of cheese slices on a tray. Another person’s hand reaches in to grab a slice, emphasizing the communal, slightly unsanitary feel. The baseball field is visible in the background.

826. Ballpark Cheeseburger With Self-Serve Sticky Cheese

September 19, 2025 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from eating Ballpark cheeseburger made with with self-serve sticky cheese handled by others.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Alexandria Aces Collegiate Summer Baseball Team in Alexandria, Virginia
  • A Study of Staphylococcus Aureus Growth in Model Systems and Processed Cheese - MAGRINI - 1983 - Journal of Food Science - Wiley Online Library
  • High Hand Contamination Rates During Norovirus Outbreaks in Long-Term Care Facilities - PMC
  • State of Handwashing Report.pdf
September 19, 2025 /Don Schaffner
Cross-contamination, Cheese

Figure from Barbut et at., 1987 of hard cooked egg shelf life

825. Air Cooled Hard Boiled Eggs After a Week at Room Temperature

September 17, 2025 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from eating air cooled hard boiled eggs after a week at room temperature.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • 775. Coin in Cup for Freezer Safety After Power Outages — Risky or Not?
  • FDA Food Code | FDA
  • 210. Air cooled hard boiled eggs at room temperature — Risky or Not?
  • 467. Rich's Hard Boiled Eggs (With Bra Egg Bonus) — Risky or Not?
  • Hard-Cooked Egg Shelf Life - ScienceDirect


September 17, 2025 /Don Schaffner
Eggs, Hardboiled Eggs, Time temperature control for safety food, Spoilage

ChatGPT image text: A lifeless British admiral from 1800 lies preserved in a wooden barrel filled with brandy, camphor, and myrrh. His ornate naval uniform contrasts with his pale face as eerie fumes rise, creating a haunting, atmospheric scene of death, preservation, and solemn reverence aboard a dimly lit ship.

824. Drinking Horatio Nelson's Embalming Fluid Made With Brandy

September 15, 2025 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from drinking drinking Horatio Nelson' embalming fluid made with brandy, with camphor and myrrh.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • Horatio Nelson, 1st Viscount Nelson - Wikipedia
  • Camphor overdose: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia
  • Nelson: A Personal History: Hibbert, Christopher: 9780201624571: Amazon.com: Books
  • Christopher Hibbert - Wikipedia
September 15, 2025 /Don Schaffner
Brandy, Embalming Fluid, Camphor

ChatGPT image text: In a warehouse store, a smiling employee in a red apron offers food samples while a serious professor in a white lab coat studies the setup, arms crossed.

823. Costco Free Food Samples

September 12, 2025 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from consuming Costco free food samples.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Multistate outbreak of Escherichia coli O157:H7 infections associated with in-store sampling of an aged raw-milk Gouda cheese, 2010 - PubMed
  • Are Costco Samples Safe To Eat? Here's What You Need To Know About Hygiene Practices
  • Coronavirus outbreak prompts Costco to stop serving free samples
September 12, 2025 /Don Schaffner
Costco, Food samples, Allergy, Time temperature control for safety food

ChatGPT image text: A hotel bathroom shows a broken showerhead spilling rusty water into a white tub. Shattered metal pieces lie near the drain as orange-brown stains spread across the porcelain. Chrome fixtures and patterned tiles contrast sharply with the discolored water, emphasizing the scene’s unsettling mix of damage and contamination.

822. Don's Rusty Shower Event

September 10, 2025 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of standing in a hotel bathroom in Athens Greece after a shower head explodes.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Legionnaires disease in Athens
  • 13th ICPMF
  • About Legionnaires' Disease | Legionella | CDC
  • Legionnaires' Disease - NYC Health
  • CDC Providing a Home for Guests, not Legionella
September 10, 2025 /Don Schaffner
Shower, Legionnaires disease

A blonde Canadian man sits in a bathtub, spitting out red wine after discovering a fly in his glass. He grips a video game controller in his other hand, looking shocked and disgusted. A Canadian flag hangs behind him, emphasizing his nationality amid the tiled bathroom backdrop.

821. Consuming a Fly in Wine, Twice

September 08, 2025 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of Consuming a fly in wine, on two different occasions.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Food Safety Talk 327: You Got It In Two (Live from AFDO 2025) — Food Safety Talk
  • Roderick on the Line - Merlin Mann
  • Wines - 19 Crimes
  • 159. Food, Once a Fly Has Landed on It — Risky or Not?
  • Task Management Software Built For Pros - OmniFocus - The Omni Group
  • 201. Bug in Your Margarita — Risky or Not?
  • 513. 12 Flies in a Soda Dispenser — Risky or Not?
  • Epidemiology Protective Effect of Alcoholic Beverages...
  • A systematic review of human pathogens carried by the housefly (Musca domestica L.) - PMC


September 08, 2025 /Don Schaffner
Wine, Fly, Cross-contamination

A dented aluminum can with “BEER” crossed out by a bold red X and “LACF” beneath it seeps neon green slime from the seam near the closed pull top. The ooze dribbles down the side and pools below, creating a vivid, unsettling contrast against the plain background.

820. "Canning" an Unrefrigerated Low Acid Canned Food

September 05, 2025 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of using a beer canning line to package low acid canned food that will not be refrigerated.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • Chumbawamba - Tubthumping - YouTube
  • Iron Heart Mobile Canning | The Leader In Quality Canning
  • Death Wish Coffee Co. Announces Recall of Nitro Cold Brew Cans From Retailers, Online Sales | FDA
  • WO2022082110A1 - C. bot prevention in coffee - Google Patents
  • Canned coffee products sold under 128 coffee roaster names recalled over potential Clostridium botulinum contamination | Food Safety News
September 05, 2025 /Don Schaffner
Beer, Canning, Low acid canned food

DALL·E image text: A cheerful Canadian-looking professor in a plaid flannel shirt and beanie gives a thumbs-up inside a refrigerator set at 37°F. In the foreground, a clear container holds golden garlic confit, contrasting with the cold, clean interior. His proud expression highlights satisfaction with his perfectly chilled fridge.

819. Storing Garlic Confit in Ben's Refrigerator for Two Weeks

September 03, 2025 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of storing garlic confit at 37 °C (in Ben's refrigerator) for two weeks.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Garlic-in-oil associated botulism: episode leads to product modification. | AJPH | Vol. 80 Issue 11
  • Botulism from Chopped Garlic: Delayed Recognition of a Major Outbreak | Annals of Internal Medicine
  • Outgrowth and Toxin Production by Clostridium botulinum in Bottled Chopped Garlic - ScienceDirect
  • Conservative Prediction of Time to Clostridium botulinum Toxin Formation for Use with Time-Temperature Indicators To Ensure the Safety of Foods - ScienceDirect
  • Current Food Safety Issues of Home-prepared Vegetables and Herbs Stored in Oil
  • Garlic Confit Recipe
  • 78. Garlic Confit — Risky or Not?
  • The Use and Performance of Household Refrigerators: A Review - James - 2017 - Comprehensive Reviews in Food Science and Food Safety - Wiley Online Library
September 03, 2025 /Don Schaffner
Garlic, Botulism, Temperature

ChatGPT: A sad-looking man rests his face in his hands at a table, staring at eight identical glasses of water lined up in front of him. His furrowed brow and downturned mouth suggest reluctance and weariness, as though the task of drinking them all feels overwhelming.

818. Not Drinking 8 Glasses of Water a Day

September 01, 2025 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks if you don't drink 8 glasses of water a day.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Do you really need to drink water? Find out here | TikTok
  • The Water Myth | Office for Science and Society - McGill University
  • | Office for Science and Society - McGill University
  • Effect of Coaching to Increase Water Intake on Kidney Function Decline in Adults With Chronic Kidney Disease: The CKD WIT Randomized Clinical Trial | Urology | JAMA | JAMA Network
  • Hyponatremia - Wikipedia
  • Decoding the Gurus Podcast
  • The Certainty Illusion by Timothy Caulfield: 9780735245884 | PenguinRandomHouse.com: Books
  • Dunning–Kruger effect - Wikipedia
September 01, 2025 /Don Schaffner
Water, Hydration

DALL·E image text: A Massachusetts beach scene features a bold yellow warning sign. The red header reads “WARNING,” followed by black text stating: “RARE Vibrio vulnificus BACTERIA.” The sign stands prominently in the foreground, while behind it stretch sandy shores, rolling waves, grassy dunes, and a partly cloudy blue sky, creating a stark contrast.

817. Going to the Beach With a Vibrio Alert

August 29, 2025 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of going to the beach with a Vibrio vulnificus alert.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Department of Public Health alerts public to rare Vibrio vulnificus bacteria in coastal waters | Mass.gov
  • About Vibrio Infection | Vibrio Infection | CDC
  • Quantitative Risk Assessment on the Public Health Impact of Pathogenic Vibrio parahaemolyticus in Raw Oysters | FDA
August 29, 2025 /Don Schaffner
Vibrio, Swimming, Shellfish

DALL·E image text: A person rinses fresh strawberries, raspberries, and blueberries under a modern faucet using a metal strainer. In the background, a sleek electronic fruit-washing gadget sits cracked and broken, unused on the counter. The contrast highlights the simplicity of hand-washing berries compared to the failure of the fancy device.

816. Washing Produce With Just Plain Water

August 27, 2025 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of just washing produce in plain water vs. a fancy gizmo.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Garrnish Pesticide Purifier: The Complete Fruit and Vegetable Cleaner – garrnish
  • Pesticide Residue Monitoring Report and Data for FY 2022 | FDA
  • Pesticide Residue Monitoring Program Questions and Answers | FDA
  • Pesticide Residue Monitoring Program Reports and Data | FDA
  • Removal of 16 pesticide residues from strawberries by washing with tap and ozone water, ultrasonic cleaning and boiling | Environmental Monitoring and Assessment
August 27, 2025 /Don Schaffner
Pesticides, Water, Produce

DALL·E image text: A shrimp superhero stands ready for battle, muscular and armored with its shell, wearing a red cape and a glowing radioactive emblem. Green smoke rises from a cracked glowing sphere nearby, casting an eerie glow over the dark city skyline as the shrimp radiates determination and power.

815. Radioactive Shrimp

August 25, 2025 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating shrimp impacted by the recent recall.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • FDA Advises Public Not to Eat, Sell, or Serve Certain Imported Frozen Shrimp from an Indonesian Firm | FDA
  • Walmart recalls its frozen shrimp in 13 states, citing potential radioactive contamination | PBS News
  • Supporting Document for Guidance Levels for Radionuclides in Domestic and Imported Foods | FDA
  • This fact sheet answers the most frequently asked health questions (FAQs) about cesium
  • MEASUREMENT OF CESIUM‐137 IN FOODSTUFFS
  • The transfer of cesium-137 and strontium-90 from soil to food crops after the Chernobyl accident - ScienceDirect
  • In situ measurement of cesium-137 contamination in fruits from the northern Marshall Islands
  • Cesium-137 | Radiation Emergencies | CDC
  • Caesium-137 - Wikipedia
  • You Can Call Me Al - The Paul Simon Official Site
August 25, 2025 /Don Schaffner
Cesium-137, Shrimp, Radioactivity

DALL·E image text: A packaged Teewurst sausage labeled “Cook to 165°F for regulatory purposes,” “Raw Pork,” and “Spread on a cracker and enjoy raw,” with a photo of the spread on a cracker. The sausage is vacuum-sealed in clear plastic with metal clips at each end.

814. Eating Dane's Raw Teewurst

August 22, 2025 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from consuming teewurst that is made from raw meat which says that it must be cooked to 165°F.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • Teawurst
  • Bain-marie - Wikipedia
  • Microbiological risk assessment of viruses in foods Part 1: Food attribution, analytical methods and indicators
  • Hepatitis E - Wikipedia
  • Hepatitis E
  • Hepatitis E Basics | Hepatitis E | CDC
  • Reimar Johne: Microbiology H-index & Awards - Academic Profile | Research.com
  • Teewurst | Local Sausage From Mecklenburg-West Pomerania, Germany | TasteAtlas
  • A long-lasting outbreak of Salmonella Typhimurium U323 associated with several pork products, Denmark, 2010 - PMC
  • A large outbreak of hemolytic uremic syndrome caused by an unusual sorbitol-fermenting strain of Escherichia coli O157:H- - PubMed
  • Behavior of Escherichia coli O157:H7, Listeria monocytogenes, and Salmonella Typhimurium in teewurst, a raw spreadable sausage - ScienceDirect
August 22, 2025 /Don Schaffner
Pork, Teewurst, Sausage, Labeling, Teawurst

DALL·E image text: An older male food microbiology professor in a lab coat stares puzzled at a Boxelder bug on his finger. He wears glasses and has a gray beard. A bottle of maple syrup and a microscope are in the background, adding context to the quirky, scientific setting.

813. Squishing a Bug That Smells Like Maple Syrup

August 20, 2025 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from squishing a bug that smells like maple syrup.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Maple syrup smelling bug
  • Boxelder bugs | UMN Extension
  • Heritage Minutes: Wilder Penfield - YouTube
  • Rick Moranis and Dave Thomas | SCTV | Great White North: Canadian Education - YouTube
  • Is Smelling Burnt Toast a Sign That You're Having a Stroke? - HealthyWomen
August 20, 2025 /Don Schaffner
Maple syrup, Insects, Boxelder bug

DALL·E image text: A stack of smooth cedar planks soaks in a stainless steel tub filled with water. In the background, fresh salmon fillets rest on a metal tray, ready for cooking. The warm wood tones contrast with the cool, clean kitchen setting, evoking preparation for cedar plank grilling.

812. Soaking Cedar Planks for Salmon in Room Temperature Water

August 18, 2025 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from soaking cedar planks to be used for cooking salmon in water at room temperature.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • 670. Cooking Salmon on Moldy Cedar Planks — Risky or Not?
  • FDA Food Code | FDA
  • Food Code 2022 | FDA
  • Cutting Boards of Plastic and Wood Contaminated Experimentally with Bacteria - ScienceDirect
  • Touch the wood: Antimicrobial properties of wooden and other solid material surfaces differ between dry and moist contamination in public and laboratory exposure - ScienceDirect
  • Florida Chapter_64E_11.pdf
  • Washington State Retail Food Code
August 18, 2025 /Don Schaffner
Salmon, Cedar, Water, Wood

DALL·E image text: A ceramic bowl overflows with ripe, red raspberries, sitting on a sunlit kitchen counter. Soft daylight filters through a nearby window, casting a warm, nostalgic glow. The slightly worn surfaces and muted tones of the background contrast with the vivid freshness of the berries, suggesting they were recently picked and forgotten.

811. Raspberries at Room Temperature for About 28 Hours

August 15, 2025 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of leaving raspberries at room temperature for about 28 hours.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

August 15, 2025 /Don Schaffner
Raspberries, Time temperature control for safety food

DALL·E image text: A golden-crusted loaf of sliced white bread sits on a pastel blue countertop in a cheerful 1950s kitchen, surrounded by mint-green tiles, yellow curtains, and red accents, all bathed in soft daylight, creating a warm, nostalgic atmosphere.

810. White Bread

August 13, 2025 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from white bread.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Katie Swanson | LinkedIn
  • Evaluation and Definition of Potentially Hazardous Foods
  • Paul Anthony Hall Obituary - Visitation & Funeral Information
  • Merle Pierson | Food Science & Technology | Virginia Tech
  • group fitness instructors — THE WEIGHT CLUB
  • Bacillus spore contamination associated with commercial bread manufacture - ScienceDirect
  • Contamination profiles and characterisation of Bacillus species in wheat bread and raw materials for bread production - ScienceDirect
  • Genetic diversity and involvement in bread spoilage of Bacillus strains isolated from flour and ropy bread | Letters in Applied Microbiology | Oxford Academic
  • Ropiness in Bread—A Re-Emerging Spoilage Phenomenon - PMC
August 13, 2025 /Don Schaffner
Time temperature control for safety food, Bread
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