Risky or Not?

A short podcast about everyday risks from germs

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DALL·E - Imagine a quaint scene set in a dimly lit, compact dorm room featuring a small, unplugged refrigerator with its door slightly ajar. Inside are pieces of sushi.

594. Expired Sushi in a Unplugged Refrigerator for 7 Hours

March 27, 2024 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating out of date sushi from a refrigerator that was unplugged for about seven hours.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Bug Juice Fruit Punch - The Nerdy Gourmet
  • Bug Juice Drink Recipe - Punch
  • Histamine fish poisoning: a common but frequently misdiagnosed condition - PubMed
  • Histamine - Wikipedia
  • FDA Chapter 7: Scombrotoxin (Histamine) Formation
  • Modelling the effect of temperature, carbon dioxide, water activity and pH on growth and histamine formation by Morganella psychrotolerans - ScienceDirect
March 27, 2024 /Don Schaffner
Sushi, Time temperature control for safety food

DALL·E - A photorealistic image of a succulent piece of fish, drenched in a vibrant tomato sauce, delicately wrapped in aluminum foil, presented on a pristine plate with Carlsbad dumplings.

593. Cooking With Aluminium Foil

March 25, 2024 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks posed by cooking with aluminum foil.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Aluminum | Public Health Statement | ATSDR
  • Leaching of aluminium from cookwares -- a review | Environmental Geochemistry and Health
  • The Effect of Cooking Conditions on Aluminum Concentrations of Seafood, Cooked in Aluminum Foil: Journal of Aquatic Food Product Technology: Vol 29 , No 2
  • Aluminum contamination of food during culinary preparation: Case study with aluminum foil and consumers’ preferences - PMC
  • Karlovarský knedlík - Carlsbad dumpling - Czechology
  • Mofongo [Recipe + Video] How to Make an Amazing Plantain Dish
  • Traditional Puerto Rican Mofongo (25 Minutes!) | Salima's Kitchen
March 25, 2024 /Don Schaffner
Aluminium foil, Alzheimer's disease

DALL·E - Imagine a scene where a young man has just emerged from submerging his head into a vat full of pickles. The moment is captured as he lifts his head, a pickle in his mouth.

592. Eating Pickles From a Vat That a Man Dunked His Head Into

March 22, 2024 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating pickles from a vat that someone has dunked their head into.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Glassboro police searching for man accused of dunking head in pickle jar at Heritage store - 6abc Philadelphia
  • Sky blue beach chairs on West Main St #streetseats #street_seats #streetart #artiseverywhere #mendham #mendhamnj #mendhamboro #takeaseat | Instagram
  • Ordinance of the Borough of Mendham, in the County of Morris and State of New Jersey, Amending the Borough Code to Permit Outdoor Dining and Outdoor Seating to Facilitate Small Business Recovery Needed in Light of the Covid-19 Public Health Emergency
  • Mendham Borough, New Jersey - Wikipedia
  • dc _ bathrooms (@dc_bathrooms) • Instagram photos and videos
  • Official Website of the Borough of GlassboroOfficial Website of the Borough of Glassboro
  • 582. Soup After Someone Has Tasted That Soup From the Ladle in a Grocery Store Hot Bar — Risky or Not?
  • pickles - Risky or Not?


March 22, 2024 /Don Schaffner
Pickles, Cross-contamination, Hair

DALL·E - Imagine a serene Swiss lake, reflecting the beauty of the surrounding landscape with a majestic water jet in the center. This jet is teeming with microbes.

591. Drinking Water From Switzerland's 7,000 Lakes

March 20, 2024 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of drinking untreated lakewater from Switzerland.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • IAFP Post on LinkedIn
  • European Symposium - International Association for Food Protection
  • Jet d'Eau - Wikipedia
  • National Surface Water Quality Monitoring Programme (NAWA)
  • Increased Levels of Multiresistant Bacteria and Resistance Genes after Wastewater Treatment and Their Dissemination into Lake Geneva, Switzerland - PMC
March 20, 2024 /Don Schaffner
Water, Switzerland, International Association for Food Protection

DALL·E Image of boiled Yukon gold potatoes in a clear glass bowl, teeming with colorful, cartoon-style bacteria.

590. Kejni's Extra-Crispy Roast Potato Recipe

March 18, 2024 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of leaving boiled chunks of Yukon gold potatoes at room temperature overnight.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • J. Kenji López-Alt
  • James Neal (ice hockey) - Wikipedia
  • Last night I followed the beginning of my extra-crispy roast potato recipe (I boiled chunks of Yukon golds in water with salt and a pinch… | Instagram
  • Large Outbreak of Botulism: The Hazardous Baked Potato | The Journal of Infectious Diseases | Oxford Academic
  • Restaurant-Associated Type a Botulism: Transmission by Potato Salad | American Journal of Epidemiology | Oxford Academic
  • Combined effect of water activity and pH on inhibition of toxin production by Clostridium botulinum in cooked, vacuum-packed potatoes | Applied and Environmental Microbiology
  • Presence and Significance of Bacillus cereus in Dehydrated Potato Products - ScienceDirect
  • Influence of temperature shifts on survival, growth, and toxin production by psychrotrophic and mesophilic strains of Bacillus cereus in potatoes and chicken gravy - ScienceDirect
  • Presence and Growth of Bacillus cereus in Dehydrated Potato Flakes and Hot-Held, Ready-to-Eat Potato Products Purchased in New Zealand - ScienceDirect
  • 154. Michael Scott Bacon Method — Risky or Not?
March 18, 2024 /Don Schaffner
Potatoes, Botulism, Bacillus cereus

Here's the revised image, with the hamburger a bit hard to see, as if it's under a seat in the car.

589. Hamburger Left in Car for Three Days

March 15, 2024 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating a smelly hamburger left in car for three days.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • All-American Cheeseburger - Nearby For Delivery or Pick Up | Buffalo Wild Wings
  • McDonald's Burger Survives 20 Years and Still Looks Fresh off the Grill - Interesting Engineering
  • Control of Clostridium perfringens in Cooked Ground Beef by Carvacrol, Cinnamaldehyde, Thymol, or Oregano Oil during Chilling - ScienceDirect
March 15, 2024 /Don Schaffner
Beef, Hamburger, Clostridium perfringens

Here's the image of a swollen can of Surströmming, showcasing the high pressure inside due to the fermentation process. The can is set on a rustic wooden table, featuring a label with classic Swedish design elements.

588. Swollen Can of Surströmming

March 13, 2024 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating surströmming from a swollen can.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Surströmming - Wikipedia
  • Fermented and ripened fish products in the northern European countries - ScienceDirect
  • Discovering microbiota and volatile compounds of surströmming, the traditional Swedish sour herring - ScienceDirect
  • Safety of Fermented Fish Products - ScienceDirect
  • Fermented and ripened fish products in the northern European countries - ScienceDirect
  • Strictly anaerobic halophiles isolated from canned Swedish fermented herrings (Surströmming) - ScienceDirect
  • Swollen can of surströmming - SURSTRÖMMING - THE OFFICIAL STORE
March 13, 2024 /Don Schaffner
Fish, Botulism, Surströmming

Here's the image of a fictional package of beef jerky labeled as "Uncle Mike's Beef Jerky Company," designed for social media promotion.

587. Homemade Jerky From Facebook Marketplace

March 11, 2024 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating homemade beef jerky from facebook marketplace.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • Marketplace - Beef jerky | Facebook
  • Jerky and Food Safety | Food Safety and Inspection Service
  • FSIS Compliance Guideline for Meat and Poultry Jerky Produced by Small and Very Small Establishments | Food Safety and Inspection Service
  • Jersey Mike's Subs - Menu
  • Fate of Listeria monocytogenes and Salmonella Species in Ground Beef Jerky - ScienceDirect
  • Home-Style Beef Jerky: Effect of Four Preparation Methods on Consumer Acceptability and Pathogen Inactivation - ScienceDirect
  • About Uncle Mike's | Uncle Mike's
  • The Naughty Nineties | Who’s on First? — Abbott and Costello - YouTube
  • Marketplace - Apple Mac Pro (Late 2013)-$500(Wake Forest, Raleigh) | Facebook
March 11, 2024 /Don Schaffner
Jerky, Dehydration, E. coli O157:H7, Salmonella

586. Jane's Raw Ground Beef in the Deli Station

March 08, 2024 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of storing raw ground beef in a deli preparation station near ready-to-eat foods.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • FSIS Issues Public Health Alert for Ground Beef Products That Tested Positive for E. Coli O157:H7 | Food Safety and Inspection Service
  • Sampling Verification Activities for Shiga Toxin-Producing Escherichia Coli (STEC) in Raw Beef Products - Revision 6 | Food Safety and Inspection Service
  • Management of Risk of Microbial Cross-Contamination from Uncooked Frozen Hamburgers by Alcohol-Based Hand Sanitizer - ScienceDirect
  • Public Health Effects of Performance Standards for Ground Beef and Beef Manufacturing Trimmings
March 08, 2024 /Don Schaffner
Beef, E. coli O157:H7, Salmonella, Cross-contamination

DALL·E - An illustration showing a priest, dressed in traditional religious attire, solemnly holding a communion cup. The cup is intricately designed but covered in exaggerated, cartoonish germs.

585. Drinking From a "Common Cup" for Communion

March 06, 2024 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of drinking from a "common cup" for communion.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Holy Communion and Infection Transmission: A Literature Review - PMC
  • Risk of the Common Communion Cup
  • Risk of Infectious Disease Transmission from a Common Communion Cup - St. John Evangelical Lutheran Church & School
  • Risk of Infectious Disease Transmission from a Common Communion Cup - ScienceDirect
  • Risk of Infectious Disease Transmission from a Common Communion Cup - American Journal of Infection Control
  • Could The Stanley Cup Spread Disease? | NC State News
  • 153. Drinking From the Stanley Cup, COVID Edition — Risky or Not?
  • Big Dumb Cups - SNL - YouTube
  • Stanley Drinkware & Gear | Bottles, Tumblers, Growlers & More – Stanley 1913
  • A note about receiving Holy Communion by intinction | Diocese in Europe
March 06, 2024 /Don Schaffner
Cross-contamination, Drinking, Cups

DALL·E - A whimsical scene of a chicken sitting in a kitchen sink, embodying an unusual and humorous juxtaposition. The chicken, with its feathers fluffed out…

584. Chicken Washed With Bleach and Soap

March 04, 2024 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating chicken washed with bleach and soap

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • KING 👑 on X: "If y’all needed some understanding as to why you don’t eat at everybody’s house here’s some. https://t.co/N2BDpDavRq" / X
  • Cleaning and Disinfecting With Bleach | CDC
  • Effect of Exposure of Meat and Poultry to Chlorinated Water on the Retention of Chlorinated Compounds and Water - Cunningham - 1977 - Journal of Food Science - Wiley Online Library
  • Su1776 A Series of Detergent Pod Ingestions in Toddlers - Gastrointestinal Endoscopy
  • Household bleaches based on sodium hypochlorite: Review of acute toxicology and poison control center experience - ScienceDirect
  • Cleaning and Disinfectant Chemical Exposures and Temporal Associations with COVID-19 — National Poison Data System, United States, January 1, 2020–March 31, 2020 | MMWR
March 04, 2024 /Don Schaffner
Chicken, Chlorine bleach, Soap, Cleaning, Disinfection

DALL·E - A whimsical and surreal scene where a goldfish is swimming through a hole in a wooden table filled with clear, sparkling water…

583. Food From a Table With Live Fish Swimming in It

March 01, 2024 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating at a table with live fish swimming in it.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • A tea table with a filter#teatable #table #coffeetable #diningtable #woodentable #desk #carpentry #fishculture #fish #growflowers #tealife | Instagram
  • XIMU Tea House
  • Place a table by the window for coffee and fish farming.#table#teatable#coffeetable #diningtable #woodentable #desk #carpentry #fishculture… | Instagram
  • Fish | Healthy Pets, Healthy People | CDC
  • 213. Eating on an Active Fishing Pier — Risky or Not?
  • 290. Yeeting a Real Fish Into a Crowd — Risky or Not?
  • 493. Visiting a Fish Market — Risky or Not?


March 01, 2024 /Don Schaffner
Fish, Cross-contamination

DALL·E - An elderly man stands in a grocery store, next to a large pot of soup, eating soup directly from a ladle with no bowl in his hands…

582. Soup After Someone Has Tasted That Soup From the Ladle in a Grocery Store Hot Bar

February 28, 2024 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of getting soup after someone has tasted that soup from the ladle in a grocery store hot bar.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • @ask_aubry • This is why I have trust issues. • Threads
  • Serving Up Safe Buffets | FDA
  • Minimally Invasive Saliva Testing to Monitor Norovirus Infection in Community Settings | The Journal of Infectious Diseases | Oxford Academic
  • An Outbreak of Norovirus Infection from Shellfish Soup Due to Unforeseen Insufficient Heating During Preparation - PubMed
February 28, 2024 /Don Schaffner
Hot holding, Soup, Cross-contamination, Norovirus

DALL·E - A two-year-old child, looking realistic, has a runny nose with boogers, but 50% less than before, visibly coming out…

581. Bread Pudding Made From a 2 Year Old Child's Leftover Crusts

February 26, 2024 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of bread pudding made from a 2 year old child's leftover crusts.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • My 2yo son doesn't eat the crusts of his toast, so we save them up and make bread and butter pudding. : r/shittyfoodporn
  • Bread and Butter Pudding | RecipeTin Eats
  • Effect of Water Activity on the Growth Kinetics of Staphylococcus aureus in Ground Bread Crumb - Feeherry - 2003 - Journal of Food Science - Wiley Online Library
  • Desserts : Red Fish Grill Restaurant : New Orleans, Louisiana
  • Napoleon House : In The French Quarter : New Orleans
February 26, 2024 /Don Schaffner
Bread, Staphylococcus

DALL·E - Create an image of a white hand towel hanging on a sleek metal towel rack, with exactly three dirty handprints visible on its surface.

580. Not Washing Hand Towels After 3 Uses

February 23, 2024 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of not washing hand towels after 3 uses.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • How Often Should You Wash Your Bath Towel? | Houston Methodist On Health
  • A Study of Bacterial Contaminants of Cloth and Paper Towels
  • Are You Washing Your Bathroom Hand Towels Enough?
  • Bacterial Occurrence in Kitchen Hand Towels
  • The microbiological quality of washing-up water and the environment in domestic and commercial kitchens - PubMed.)
  • Residual moisture determines the level of touch-contact-associated bacterial transfer following hand washing. - PMC
  • Quantifying the Effect of Hand Wash Duration, Soap Use, Ground Beef Debris, and Drying Methods on the Removal of Enterobacter aerogenes on Hands - ScienceDirect
February 23, 2024 /Don Schaffner
Handwashing, Towels, Cross-contamination

579. Mike's Car Baked Mac and Cheese

February 21, 2024 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of Mike's car baked mac and cheese at Bonnaroo.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • 568. Sandy Ocean Rinsed Pizza — Risky or Not?
  • Bonnaroo Music & Arts Festival – Manchester, TN | June 13-16, 2024
  • Costco Kirkland Signature Mac and Cheese Review - Costcuisine
  • Imgur image of the item
  • Presentation: An Assessment of Time/Temperature Combinations for Salmonella Lethality Achieved when Baking Cookies in Vehicles (IAFP 2016 Annual Meeting)
  • 182. Dashboard Cookies — Risky or Not?
  • Nestlé may shut plant at the center of 2022 French E. coli outbreak | Food Safety News
February 21, 2024 /Don Schaffner
Macaroni and cheese, Car cooking, Time temperature control for safety

DALL·E - A 1950s Chevrolet with a giant refrigerator sticking out the roof

578. Haley's Aunt's Car "Refrigerator"

February 19, 2024 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of Haley's Aunt using her car as a refrigerator

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • Costco Chicken Pot Pie (Calories, Nutrition, more!)
  • Kirkland Signature Spiral Sliced Ham, Hickory Smoked, 9 lb avg wt | Costco
  • Listeria monocytogenes Dose Response Revisited—Incorporating Adjustments for Variability in Strain Virulence and Host Susceptibility - Pouillot* - 2015 - Risk Analysis - Wiley Online Library
  • Food Safety Talk 298: Stop Dumping In My Tubes — Food Safety Talk
  • Hams and Food Safety | Food Safety and Inspection Service


February 19, 2024 /Don Schaffner
Time temperature control for safety, Cars

DALL·E - A chocolate chip cookie on a sea of bubbling wax

577. Baking Cookies on Wax Paper

February 16, 2024 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from baking cookies on wax paper.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Loonies and Toonies Canadian Dollar Coins
  • pre taped call in show - YouTube
  • Ash Wednesday - Wikipedia
  • Can You Bake With Wax Paper? | MyRecipes
  • used wax paper instead of parchment, is my food still safe to eat? : r/Cooking
  • Wax Paper | Reynolds Brands
  • Reynolds Group Holdings - Wikipedia
  • Parchmentising - Wikipedia
  • Twaddell scale - Wikipedia
  • What is wax paper?
February 16, 2024 /Don Schaffner
Cookies, Wax paper, Toxicology

576. Driving With a Teen on a Learner's Permit

February 14, 2024 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks associated with teenagers driving with a learners permit.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Points of Personal Privilege
  • Analysis of the fatal crash involvements of 15-year-old drivers - ScienceDirect
  • The Effects of Driving Age, Driver Education, and Curfew Laws on Traffic Fatalities of 15–17 Year Olds1 - Levy - 1988 - Risk Analysis - Wiley Online Library
  • Sixteen years age limit for learner drivers in Sweden—an evaluation of safety effects - ScienceDirect
  • The learner's permit - ScienceDirect
  • North Carolina Graduated Driver License Informational Handout
February 14, 2024 /Don Schaffner
Teenagers, Driving, Automobiles

DALL·E - a tray of ice cubes underneath a package of frozen ground beef

575. Ice Stored Under Factory Packaged Frozen Raw Ground Beef

February 12, 2024 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of consuming ice stored under factory package frozen raw ground beef.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • 80% Lean Ground Beef | ALDI US
  • Thermal Expansion and Density | EARTH 111: Water: Science and Society
  • Prevalence of Campylobacter, Salmonella, and Escherichia coli on the External Packaging of Raw Meat - ScienceDirect
February 12, 2024 /Don Schaffner
Ice, Beef, E. coli O157:H7, Cross-contamination
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