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97. Two Beer Steak

January 23, 2021 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from the beer in two beer steak.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • William Coney on Twitter: "Ricky or not? @bugcounter @benjaminchapman" / Twitter
  • ᴄᴀɪᴛ on Twitter: "i love this province i don’t ever want to leave https://t.co/vEmYtnu1ZD" / Twitter
  • Centreville Valufoods/ ANBL Agency | Facebook
  • Microbiological baseline study of beef and pork carcasses from provincially inspected abattoirs in Alberta, Canada
  • Bacteria on Can Lids
  • About | Valufoods | Hartland's & Centreville's Community Groceries
January 23, 2021 /Don Schaffner
Beer, Steak, Cross-contamination, Raw meat
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96. Eating Raw Sprouts

January 20, 2021 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating raw sprouts.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • Jonathan's Sprouts - Jonathan's Sprouts
  • ISGA – International Sprout Growers Association
  • FDA Concludes Major Sampling Study of Sprouts | FDA
  • Sprout Safety Alliance | FDA
  • Advice to Consumers & Retailers | Multistate Outbreak of Salmonella Muenchen Infections Linked to Alfalfa Sprouts Produced by Sweetwater Farms | February 2016 | Salmonella | CDC
  • Microgreens—A review of food safety considerations along the farm to fork continuum - ScienceDirect
  • Barf Blog - A great resource on why we should reconsider Sprouts | Marler Blog
January 20, 2021 /Don Schaffner
Sprouts
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95. Eating Food From Rodent Gnawed Packages

January 18, 2021 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating food from rodent gnawed packages.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • Gnawed food packets for sale and active rodent infestations triggers closure of businesses and restaurants
  • Mice infestations close sushi restaurant and Asian food market
  • How do Rodents Play Role in Transmission of Foodborne Diseases?
  • Rule of thumb - Wikipedia
  • List of Predatory Publishers | Stop Predatory Journals
January 18, 2021 /Don Schaffner
Rodents, Cross-contamination
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94. Room Temperature Fermented Hot Sauce

January 15, 2021 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of making and shipping room temperature fermented hot sauce

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Kimchi Handout Colorado State
  • Frank’s RedHot
January 15, 2021 /Don Schaffner
Hot sauce, Hot peppers, Temperature, Fermentation
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93. Using The Inversion Method for Jams and Jellies

January 13, 2021 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of using inversion method for jams and jellies.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • Ben Stanfield on Twitter: Jam canning advice from one of the year’s top cookbooks and a celebrated chef. Risky or not?
  • Baking at the 20th Century Cafe: Iconic European Desserts from Linzer Torte to Honey Cake: Polzine, Michelle: 9781579658984: Amazon.com: Books
  • National Center for Home Food Preservation | How Do I? Jam and Jelly
  • Judging Home Preserved Foods
  • Inversion Canning - Healthy Canning
  • Food Safety Talk 217: Fruit Forward — Food Safety Talk
  • Ball Blue Book Guide to Preserving
  • Food Preservation Competition
January 13, 2021 /Don Schaffner
Jam, Jelly, Canning
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92. Refrigerating Unopened Canned Food

January 11, 2021 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of refrigerating unopened canned food.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼

Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Ocean Spray® Jellied Cranberry Sauce | Ocean Spray
  • Lyme disease - Wikipedia
  • Phytophotodermatitis - Wikipedia
  • Cranberries: Best Food for Lyme, an Ulcer, Cancer and Brain | Psychology Today
January 11, 2021 /Don Schaffner
Canned food, Refrigeration
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91. Eating Roadkill

January 08, 2021 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating roadkill.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️

Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • The Jungle - Wikipedia
  • FSIS Veterinary Opportunities
  • Transmission | Hansen's Disease (Leprosy) | CDC
  • Proper Processing of Wild Game and Fish - Food Safety - Home Food Safety - Food Safety and Quality
  • Occurrence | Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) | Prion Disease | CDC
  • Armadillos and leprosy: from infection to biological model
January 08, 2021 /Don Schaffner
Roadkill
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90. Dishwasher Seals

January 06, 2021 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from automatic dishwasher seals.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼

Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • The dishwasher rubber seal acts as a reservoir of bacteria in the home environment - PubMed
  • Dishwashers--a man-made ecological niche accommodating human opportunistic fungal pathogens - PubMed
  • Dishwashers are a major source of human opportunistic yeast-like fungi in indoor environments in Mersin, Turkey: Medical Mycology: Vol 51, No 5
  • A method to evaluate factors influencing the microbial reduction in domestic dishwashers - Brands - 2020 - Journal of Applied Microbiology - Wiley Online Library
January 06, 2021 /Don Schaffner
Dishwasher, Cross-contamination
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89. Public Bathroom Mouthwash

January 04, 2021 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from using public bathroom mouthwash.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Tom Joad on Twitter: "@benjaminchapman @bugcounter Is this normal? And....why? Why? https://t.co/gTEeR7Vwxx" / Twitter
  • GotFreshBreath Mouthwash Dispenser
  • All Products | GotFreshBreath
  • Manual Mouthwash Dispenser Installation Guide | GotFreshBreath
  • Biotene - Wikipedia
January 04, 2021 /Don Schaffner
Mouthwash, Restrooms
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88. Mail Order Meat

January 01, 2021 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from ordering and eating mail order meat.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • David Sinclair on Twitter: "@bugcounter @benjaminchapman Obviously this is not safe, but I’d be curious about your thoughts on mail order meat generally: ☢️ risky or 👍 not?" / Twitter
  • https://rucore.libraries.rutgers.edu/rutgers-lib/42356/PDF/1/play/
  • Food Safety Challenges in the Modern Food Delivery World by Donald Schaffner – In Defense of Processed Food
  • Online Purveyors of Raw Meat, Poultry, and Seafood Products: Delivery Policies and Available Consumer Food Safety Information
  • Outbreak of Escherichia coli O157:H7 infections associated with nonintact blade-tenderized frozen steaks sold by door-to-door vendors - PubMed
January 01, 2021 /Don Schaffner
Meat, Mail order
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87. 27 Lbs of Unrefrigerated Feta Cheese

December 30, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from eating 27 lbs of unrefrigerated feta cheese.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Athenos Natural, Feta Cheese - 9 lb, Nutrition Information | Innit
  • Microbiological quality of white‐brined cheeses: a review - Bintsis - 2002 - International Journal of Dairy Technology - Wiley Online Library
  • Storage Temperatures Necessary to Maintain Cheese Safety - International Association for Food Protection Storage Temperatures Necessary to Maintain Cheese Safety pdf
December 30, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Refrigeration, Feta, Cheese
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86. Thawing Poultry at Room Temperature

December 28, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of thawing poultry at room temperature.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Savana on Twitter: "@VectorSciNikki @benjaminchapman @bugcounter You guys can probably explain more eloquently than I can" / Twitter
  • Don Schaffner 🦠 on Twitter: "Room temperature thawing of frozen meat is an interesting topic that comes up from time to time. If you check all of the food safety advice websites they will tell you that it is not safe to do this. (1/18)" / Twitter
  • Staphylococcus aureus - Wikipedia
  • ComBase
December 28, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Poultry, Thawing, Temperature
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85. Doing a “Shoey”

December 25, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of doing a “shoey”.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • The shoey: Why it's a bad idea to copy Daniel Ricciardo's F1 podium ritual - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
December 25, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Shoes, Shoey
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84. Aseptic Chicken Broth on the Counter for 2 Days

December 23, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of using aseptic chicken broth on the counter for 2 days.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • (18) Glass Half Empty on Twitter: "@bugcounter @benjaminchapman Help! I just discovered that I left an open Tetra Pak box of chicken broth on the counter for 2 days. Smells okay. Is it risky to use it or not? https://t.co/tiCODvC33p" / Twitter
  • The Effects of Heat Activation on Bacillus Spore Germination, with Nutrients or under High Pressure, with or without Various Germination Proteins | Applied and Environmental Microbiology
December 23, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Aseptic, Temperature, Temperature abuse
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83. Cannibal or Tiger Meat Sandwiches

December 21, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating cannibal or tiger meat sandwiches.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️

Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • (18) fedsoc sucks on Twitter: "Steak tartare but make it fucking stupid" / Twitter
  • Cannibal Sandwiches: A Polarizing And Misunderstood Wisconsin Tradition | Wisconsin Public Radio
  • Notes from the Field: Escherichia coli O157:H7 Outbreak Associated with Seasonal Consumption of Raw Ground Beef — Wisconsin, December 2012–January 2013
  • Welcome to CDC stacks |
  • Outbreak of Salmonella Serotype Typhimurium Infection Associated with Eating Raw Ground Beef -- Wisconsin, 1994
December 21, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Tiger Meat, Beef, Raw meat
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82. Peeling Clementines With Your Teeth

December 18, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of peeling clementines with your teeth.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼

Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Quantification of Transfer of Salmonella from Citrus Fruits to Peel, Edible Portion, and Gloved Hands during Hand Peeling | Journal of Food Protection | Allen Press
  • Coliforms, Escherichia coli and Salmonella Serovars Associated with a Citrus-Processing Facility Implicated in a Salmonellosis Outbreak | Journal of Food Protection | Allen Press
December 18, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Citrus, Peeling
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81. Shipping Pumpkin Pie

December 16, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of shipping pumpkin pie cross country.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼

Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Julie Weiss on Twitter: Love your show!!!Shipping a homemade frozen pumpkin pie cross-country overnight.
  • Evaluation and Definition of Potentially Hazardous Foods
  • Turns out it was Tiff, not Marco, Don regrets mis-speaking
  • Nick Fragedakis - Program Director and Acidified Foods Process Authority
  • Growth of Salmonella typhimurium and Staphylococcus aureus in Retail Pumpkin Pies1 | Journal of Food Protection | Allen Press
  • The Complex Underworld of Lost Baggage Delivery - Underunderstood
December 16, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Pumpkin Pie, Shelf stable
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80. Old canned soup

December 14, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating very old canned soup.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • (3) John Wyatt on Twitter: "@TorontoStar @parkdalefoodbnk @bugcounter @benjaminchapman - Risky or not?" / Twitter
  • ‘I’m just hungry.’ Toronto man vows to eat 14-year-old can of soup in hopes of raising $10,000 for local food bank | The Star
  • Donate Now - Parkdale Community Food Bank
  • Can infant formula and baby food be used after the date expires?
  • Food Product Dating
  • Cuff The Duke - Confessions From A Parkdale Basement (Official Audio) - YouTube
  • Parkdale Community Food Bank on Instagram: “Hey guys, @liborio_verne here. I am eternally grateful for your support and enthusiasm out of what was essentially a joke. Together, we…”
  • Food Safety Talk 196: Superintendent of Judges
  • Parkdale, Toronto - Wikipedia
December 14, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Shelf-life, Canned food
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79. Not Washing Sodastream Bottles

December 11, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risk of rinsing (not washing) your Sodastream bottles between uses.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼

Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • SodaStream Bottle Cleaning Tips -
  • Sodastream Zylinder selbst nachfüllen
  • An overview of microorganisms and factors contributing for the microbial stability of carbonated soft drinks - ScienceDirect
  • Surface Sanitation and Microbiological Food Quality of a University Foodservice Operation - Buckalew - 1996 - Foodservice Research International - Wiley Online Library
December 11, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Soda, Bottle, Washing, Sodastream, Water
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78. Garlic Confit

December 09, 2020 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of storing homemade garlic confit in your refrigerator for months.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️

Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • Confit | Definition of Confit by Oxford Dictionary on Lexico.com also meaning of Confit
  • Confit - Wikipedia
  • Justin Modugno on Twitter: "@bugcounter risky or not? https://t.co/7ShznsGBOi" / Twitter
  • Garlic-in-oil associated botulism: episode leads to product modification. | AJPH | Vol. 80 Issue 11
  • Current Food Safety Issues of Home-prepared Vegetables and Herbs Stored in Oil
  • Home Storage Temperatures and Consumer Handling of Refrigerated Foods in Sweden | Journal of Food Protection | Allen Press
  • Garlic: Safe Methods to Store, Preserve, and Enjoy
December 09, 2020 /Don Schaffner
Garlic, Botulism, Oil
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